none of that makes any sense. if you want a ralliart, you want an EVO. insurance can't be THAT much more expensive. and as for the parts, why would you need parts for the EVO? it's already faster than the ralliart. if you buy a stock ralliart and mod it to be as fast as a stock EVO, you've already spent a lot more money than you would have on just buying an EVO in the first place because with the deals they are giving on EVO's now, they are essentially the same price.

so none of those reasons are good enough to justify paying the same price for a car with less equipment

 

nobody's fighting over anything. just saying that the Ralliart is a screw up right out the gate. it's too slow, and too expensive. while we are on the subject, accord coupes and altima's are faster, better looking, better equipped, infinately better service, and warranty coverage, and can be had for likely the same money, or less than a ralliart, and will likely be better on insurance, and for sure a hell of a lot better on gas. that's just sad.

 

if we could only have ralliart styling with its ACD, and 2009 wrx power and pricing would be a perfect world.

 

+1

if only we could have the EVO X styling with it's S-AWC and at least 350hp, it would be a perfect world...well better gas mileage would be nice too haha

 

All of these numbers are quoted from EDMUNDS, the same place these Ralliart numbers are from. Feel free to look it up yourself.

 

Once again, all of these numbers are direct quotes from Edmunds, feel free to look it up yourself. If we're going to compare Edmunds slow Ralliart numbers, then you might as well compare them to slow numbers they reported for all these other cars.

 

Also, show me a dealer selling an EVO GSR for $32k...there isn't one dealer in MD selling GSRs less than $35k right now.

 

Then you travel, you are less of an idiot traveling for the right deal then you are confining yourself to one small area on a map and saying "Damn, these things are just out of my range".

The bottom line is. If this Ralliart was starting at $23,000 ish with what it has to offer, it would all be a different story. Kind of like the WRX TR, but no... companies want to scrape up as much damn money as they possibly can on a car they already cut corners on. This Ralliart... not only does it NOT come with Recaros or HIDs at this $27,000 price tag it doesn't even come with decent rubber. Hell the 2004-2005 Dodge SRT-4 came with BFG G/Force TA KDW's, Viper seats and a stock Quaife LSD... and was faster than this car and for almost $8,000 LESS if the Ralliart had ZERO options.

Insurance: You are buying a brand new car, if you are that concerned with saving the fraction of green you will be saving with a Ralliart over an EVO you need to look at how much you are throwing out the window buying a new car. You can take that depreciation hit and pay for insurance 3 years in advance.

Parts:A clutch will cost you the same to fix or repair, evo or ralliart. The twin clutch transmission is too, the same. Brake components may be a bit more expensive but unless you are a retard that does whatever the dealer tells you to do, it will be close to the same. I bet the other 80% of the parts are inter-changeable from there on out.

The point is:

Acceptable: Ralliart starting at $23,000 w/out Recaros/HID's or add the options for a total of $25,000 ish with better rubber

Unacceptable: Ralliart starting at $27,000 w/out Recaros/HID's and add the options for a total of $29,000 ish price as tested with better rubber. Too much for too little

 

I won't argue about your logic here, this is your opinion and that's fair. The only other point I have to make it that the cheapest base V6 accord coupe starts @ $29500, and the cheapest V6 altima coupe base is $27k. We're also comparing a bunch of FWD cars to a car with the same AWD system as the EVO IX, to me that's a critical difference.

 

The same AWD system as the EVO IX yet a 0.81g on the skid? Hmm

The Accord/Camry/Altima argument is not there to compare the cars in terms of pricing and what they offer. It is to bring up that a "Rally inspired all wheel drive turbo charged" sport compact can get tooled on by an ignorant soccer mom trying to merge lanes on the wrong side. It doesn't matter how much the Accord/Altima/Camry costs, it is the principle of being practically outperformed by what is known to be some of the most economical, boring, bland cars on the road when you are driving this alleged canyon carving turbo charged 4 banger.

 

Sarcasm -- look it up -- the 2009 Lancer Ralliart is a V4, the other cars aren't (at least not in their power versions), and they also don't have AWD or dual clutches. You see, I knew these things and the last part of the sentence was a dead giveaway that I was being sarcastic. Good god, I shouldn't have to explain any of this... do you even know what the 2009 Lancer Ralliart is?

 

I'm completely ready for it. It's going to be on hell of a package.

And you are complaining about the price but I bet you can't find a single other car in that range with those features for that price.

Like OMFG wow $1700 for the upgrade package? Guess what bud price those parts out individually and see what you come up with. It would be closer to 4 or 5000.

People seem to obsessed with the stupid magazine numbers, guess what they dont mean ****. The people testing ms3's said it did like 15.1 and we were doing 13.7's stock.

Wait for it to become a reality before ragging on it.

 

I'm assuming you're not a fan of the X MR then either? Running high 13s for $40k+ isn't exactly anything to brag about either right?

 

EDMUNDS needs new drivers because those numbers are slow as ****. that doesn't mean the cars are slow, it means the people driving them don't know what they are doing.

 

I don't want to spend over $30K, I don't want a FWD, I don't want a coupe, I don't want Recaros, and I don't want a clutch pedal...sign me up for the RA, bishes....

With NO CLUTCH DROP LAUNCHES, the acceleration numbers are pretty impressive for how much it weighs. Handling figures are easy fixes, as I will not keep the car sitting on top of the world as it were and the wheels and tires are coming off within the first week. All the h8rs go sit on a fat