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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 06:01 AM
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Isn't that why they need to get a RA in there?!!
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by EVO Neil
It didn't sound that way from what was posted which is what I was going off of. Can you blame me? He made incorrect statements about components on the Ralliart that they will be altering through tuning. Doesn't that worry you that they didn't know this? Lemmings...whatever...


not to mention seems to me a way he post it , suggesting those numbers will closely apply for your RA..
Just like the small letter under the contract you need to look up the ra vs X technical facts too.
Certainly you will not see the power gain even close to the X with that chip in the RA.
The X has a big ECU tune disadvantage . that is why you can gain a lots of hp only with tune.
The RA has more then ecu tune to get the "big" numbers , which is discussed many times already.That slightly different engine configuration can lead the big disappointment in numbers for some.

So when it probably a great thing this Z-chip , you guys have to remember those gains will not be a same as the X have.
So try to not over hype it as it happened in the Evo scene...

i wrote this because of this type of comments, already there to miss lead some newbie here:
"Not really.. some of the people online still think the RA and the EVO are two completely different cars just because they can't let their e-***** get endangered by a cheaper car with the same parts.

Same motor same trans. I don't know how the Zchip programs it but if you can custom change the mapping then I assume there would only be slight changes to occur to compensate for a different boost amount and A/F etc.."

and too bad those who knows what i'm saying dont even try to make clear things out , for those who have a safe e-***** ...


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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 08:10 AM
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I have nothing against TTP, I just can't fathom that it would be the same tune between Evo and Ralliart. I guess they'll let us know once they test one.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Robevo RS


not to mention seems to me a way he post it , suggesting those numbers will closely apply for your RA..
Just like the small letter under the contract you need to look up the ra vs X technical facts too.
Certainly you will not see the power gain even close to the X with that chip in the RA.
The X has a big ECU tune disadvantage . that is why you can gain a lots of hp only with tune.
The RA has more then ecu tune to get the "big" numbers , which is discussed many times already.That slightly different engine configuration can lead the big disappointment in numbers for some.

So when it probably a great thing this Z-chip , you guys have to remember those gains will not be a same as the X have.
So try to not over hype it as it happened in the Evo scene...

i wrote this because of this type of comments, already there to miss lead some newbie here:
"Not really.. some of the people online still think the RA and the EVO are two completely different cars just because they can't let their e-***** get endangered by a cheaper car with the same parts.

Same motor same trans. I don't know how the Zchip programs it but if you can custom change the mapping then I assume there would only be slight changes to occur to compensate for a different boost amount and A/F etc.."

and too bad those who knows what i'm saying dont even try to make clear things out , for those who have a safe e-***** ...

I completely agree. The RA will obviously not see Evo numbers. The Evo seems to be tuned like crap from the factory. I'm just hoping the RA can squeak out an additional 50whp and lean out the A/F to get some better gas mileage.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 09:07 AM
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I'm sure their will be gains, but a) it won't be the same tune and b) the gains will likely not be as strong as the Evo which breathes better from the factory. It's the whole more air in equals more air out thingy.

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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 09:10 AM
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i' m curious about the way the RA programmed SST will react on that also.
Good thing TTP will experiment with the RA so we will know more about the possibilities with it.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Robevo RS
i' m curious about the way the RA programmed SST will react on that also.
Good thing TTP will experiment with the RA so we will know more about the possibilities with it.
I wonder if they can add back in the Super Sport shifting mode that the RA doesn't have from the factory.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by EVO Neil
I wonder if they can add back in the Super Sport shifting mode that the RA doesn't have from the factory.
That's probably part of the tranny ECU wich is separate from the main ECU.

Remember guys the tune on the RA, is actually pretty good from the factory. The car was running very well by a post that i read here a while ago.

One of you guys needs to take your RA to a ECUtek dealer and see what they can do on the dyno.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 11:49 AM
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i think they didn't have a tune for the tranny yet. /i mean nobody/
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 12:24 PM
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Mitsubishi had no problem giving us a $45,000.00 MR to work with.



We could get an RA from them and they have already offered, however we would much rather give one of our evom family members an opportunity which they would appreciate much more than anything we could do on a Mitsubishi Factory car that they would never write an evom review about, or share publically their impressions on.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 02:48 PM
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will this void warranty?
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 02:57 PM
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Thanks for the private messages... We have a few interested parties so far.

We will begin responding to the messages in the AM.

Thanks!
TTP

Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
With the success of the twin SEMA 2008 awarded ZChip for Evo X and one last ZChip left from the last run of production chips manufactured, we wanted to save this last unit for dynotesting on a 2009 Lancer Ralliart SST to see if the results are just as great as we have experienced with the 2008 Evo X GSR 5sp and MR.



The Ralliart has a slightly different engine configuration, smaller turbo, however shares the same SST transmission as its big brother Evo X MR.



We are looking for one volunteer to complete some testing during the week anytime M-F for a few hours on a single day only.

This volunteer, shall they accept the challenge, can expect the notoriety of becoming the world's first ZChip user/owner for the 2009 RA as well as other sponsored goodies.

This candidate should contact us at 407-475-0010 by phone or sales@ ttp-engineering.com via email. TTPEngineering via AIM is another option as well as the Evom PM system.


Here is a sample of a recently custom ZChip tuned stock Evo X with boost controller and ZChip.





And the Mitsubishi volunteered 2008 Evo X MR test car;

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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 03:04 PM
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So does this void warranty? If not, im intrested
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 05:05 PM
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So does this void warranty? If not, im intrested
Technically. yes, but you already knew that. The tuning differences I mentioned earlier in this thread have been answered in this thread:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=384681

I wouldn't want the Evo X Z-chip plugged into my new RA without tuning changes before it's rolled on the dyno. The tunes are quite different!
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 05:29 PM
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voiding warranty worth 30-50 hp?
quite a debate in my head lol.
just might go the bigger turbo route if i wanna void some serious warranty

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