Soo... Fully loaded Ralliart or base Evo GSR
Just like I suspected, the lousy "canned" Cobb tune that you had was probably the culprit of your transmission shifting issues, NOT the SST itself.
For the USA you can get can Evo for 29ish-30 out the door.
Don't be a moron
And even though you (may) get the Evo out the door for $30ish (+taxes), many of us (myself included) were looking for the slick SST 6speed, so the DIRECT COMPARISON is the MR, more hovering around $33ish, so thats more like $8,000 USD difference which is nothing to spit on, unless you're loaded

Don't get me wrong, I think we are all glad you are happy with your Evo GSR, but I think the RA owners here, we are just saying we like our car too, the Ralliart. He's a good little bastard.
And he also kicks some serious @ss. Sure, he has a lot of different parts and isn't an EVO X, he's more like an EVO 9, I guess, etc, blah blah blah but he has the same heart (same engine) dude you are way too offensive. are you sure you're canadian? I thought Canadians were nicer than that. 
And even though you (may) get the Evo out the door for $30ish (+taxes), many of us (myself included) were looking for the slick SST 6speed, so the DIRECT COMPARISON is the MR, more hovering around $33ish, so thats more like $8,000 USD difference which is nothing to spit on, unless you're loaded
Don't get me wrong, I think we are all glad you are happy with your Evo GSR, but I think the RA owners here, we are just saying we like our car too, the Ralliart. He's a good little bastard.
And he also kicks some serious @ss. Sure, he has a lot of different parts and isn't an EVO X, he's more like an EVO 9, I guess, etc, blah blah blah but he has the same heart (same engine) 
And even though you (may) get the Evo out the door for $30ish (+taxes), many of us (myself included) were looking for the slick SST 6speed, so the DIRECT COMPARISON is the MR, more hovering around $33ish, so thats more like $8,000 USD difference which is nothing to spit on, unless you're loaded

Don't get me wrong, I think we are all glad you are happy with your Evo GSR, but I think the RA owners here, we are just saying we like our car too, the Ralliart. He's a good little bastard.
And he also kicks some serious @ss. Sure, he has a lot of different parts and isn't an EVO X, he's more like an EVO 9, I guess, etc, blah blah blah but he has the same heart (same engine)
Like he said, whether it's 8k or 15k difference, the point is that it's NOT a negligible difference like you claim. I think it's clear that you're the one who doesn't know what he's talking about and therefore has to resort to hurling insults in order to get your point across. As for me, I'm laughing all the way to the bank.....

dude you are way too offensive. are you sure you're canadian? I thought Canadians were nicer than that. 
And even though you (may) get the Evo out the door for $30ish (+taxes), many of us (myself included) were looking for the slick SST 6speed, so the DIRECT COMPARISON is the MR, more hovering around $33ish, so thats more like $8,000 USD difference which is nothing to spit on, unless you're loaded
Don't get me wrong, I think we are all glad you are happy with your Evo GSR, but I think the RA owners here, we are just saying we like our car too, the Ralliart. He's a good little bastard.
And he also kicks some serious @ss. Sure, he has a lot of different parts and isn't an EVO X, he's more like an EVO 9, I guess, etc, blah blah blah but he has the same heart (same engine) 
And even though you (may) get the Evo out the door for $30ish (+taxes), many of us (myself included) were looking for the slick SST 6speed, so the DIRECT COMPARISON is the MR, more hovering around $33ish, so thats more like $8,000 USD difference which is nothing to spit on, unless you're loaded

Don't get me wrong, I think we are all glad you are happy with your Evo GSR, but I think the RA owners here, we are just saying we like our car too, the Ralliart. He's a good little bastard.
And he also kicks some serious @ss. Sure, he has a lot of different parts and isn't an EVO X, he's more like an EVO 9, I guess, etc, blah blah blah but he has the same heart (same engine) Last edited by laksman91; Dec 11, 2010 at 07:07 PM.
Here's what the OP said and thats what I'm answering to. In my oppinion its worth the 5k. We all know as a car the Evo is better than the Ralliart. If its in his budget I dont see why he should not go for it. It makes no sense to go for the lesser model. You just got your head stuck far up your ***.
be the title said Fully Loaded RA...
if the OP took the time to put "fully loaded" .. we assume he wants to have Leather and Nav, HID ...
which the GSR does not come with..
Please do not get us wrong ... Most of the RA owners (if not ALL) are fan of Evo... and we did not get Evo because:
1 - We cant afford +10k (for GSR) or +20k (for MR) ... Canadian price <-- In my case ... and 10k is not "negligible" dont tell me i can buy a used one... i dun buy used cars..
2 - The Evo's interior design (mostly trunk space) did not provide what we need
Now back to topic... the choice is easy...
1 - List the criteria of a "DD" for you ... (u can buy a Audi R8 as DD .. it all comes to wuts ur standard)
2 - Select the model you can afford.. (if u can afford a R8 for DD, good for u)
If you do a lot of driving in snow or tracking, you could benefit from the s-awc which is suppose to be much better than the awc in ralliart.
If you plan to ever mod the ralliart in the handling compartment (suspension, brakes), I say for the money, you might as well get an evo. If you plan to just do some hp mods, then ra would probably be the better choice.
If you plan to ever mod the ralliart in the handling compartment (suspension, brakes), I say for the money, you might as well get an evo. If you plan to just do some hp mods, then ra would probably be the better choice.
When i created this thread i didn't think it would turn into an Evo vs Ralliart war about who is better. I think we all know the Evo is the better car here and we shouldnt argue about it. 
But i track maybe twice a year... and DD everyday. If i were in the USA, an Evo for 32k would be nothing. But im in Canada... a GSR is base 41k before destination, taxes (13%). Fully loaded Ralliart being 36k before destination and taxes is a 5k difference. Not really a small difference...at least to me it isn't.
On a side note, i went to the dealership and took a look at the Ralliart PP... and those leather recaros are awesome. Definitely gives the car a richer interior, as well as the gauge cluster and colour LCD display. The 2011 exhaust sounds deeper and meaner than the 2009 Ralliart i test drove before buying my GTS. Definite good move by Mitsu
. Sunroof is nice to have for a DD car.
Lets try to keep the hate down on this thread. At the end of the day, both cars share the same roots... being a Lancer
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But i track maybe twice a year... and DD everyday. If i were in the USA, an Evo for 32k would be nothing. But im in Canada... a GSR is base 41k before destination, taxes (13%). Fully loaded Ralliart being 36k before destination and taxes is a 5k difference. Not really a small difference...at least to me it isn't.
On a side note, i went to the dealership and took a look at the Ralliart PP... and those leather recaros are awesome. Definitely gives the car a richer interior, as well as the gauge cluster and colour LCD display. The 2011 exhaust sounds deeper and meaner than the 2009 Ralliart i test drove before buying my GTS. Definite good move by Mitsu
Lets try to keep the hate down on this thread. At the end of the day, both cars share the same roots... being a Lancer
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In terms of tracking the Ralliart, I did once. I got the "slow down overheating" message two times. That day there was another Ralliart owner with us. We were both going "at it" and I have a nice picture to show
but on his drive home from the track his TC-SST gave in and he had to get a new one 


Holy body roll!
As you can see, I want from a Loaded RA, to a GSR
but on his drive home from the track his TC-SST gave in and he had to get a new one 

Holy body roll!
As you can see, I want from a Loaded RA, to a GSR
When i created this thread i didn't think it would turn into an Evo vs Ralliart war about who is better. I think we all know the Evo is the better car here and we shouldnt argue about it. 
But i track maybe twice a year... and DD everyday. If i were in the USA, an Evo for 32k would be nothing. But im in Canada... a GSR is base 41k before destination, taxes (13%). Fully loaded Ralliart being 36k before destination and taxes is a 5k difference. Not really a small difference...at least to me it isn't.
On a side note, i went to the dealership and took a look at the Ralliart PP... and those leather recaros are awesome. Definitely gives the car a richer interior, as well as the gauge cluster and colour LCD display. The 2011 exhaust sounds deeper and meaner than the 2009 Ralliart i test drove before buying my GTS. Definite good move by Mitsu
. Sunroof is nice to have for a DD car.
Lets try to keep the hate down on this thread. At the end of the day, both cars share the same roots... being a Lancer
.

But i track maybe twice a year... and DD everyday. If i were in the USA, an Evo for 32k would be nothing. But im in Canada... a GSR is base 41k before destination, taxes (13%). Fully loaded Ralliart being 36k before destination and taxes is a 5k difference. Not really a small difference...at least to me it isn't.
On a side note, i went to the dealership and took a look at the Ralliart PP... and those leather recaros are awesome. Definitely gives the car a richer interior, as well as the gauge cluster and colour LCD display. The 2011 exhaust sounds deeper and meaner than the 2009 Ralliart i test drove before buying my GTS. Definite good move by Mitsu
Lets try to keep the hate down on this thread. At the end of the day, both cars share the same roots... being a Lancer
.s-awc + suspension + 50hp + 40tq + bigger brakes vs. trunk space + interior + lower mpg/maintenance costs + $5000 + $25/month insurance
It's a tough choice, but you can't go wrong either way.
To get back on topic do you want FWD in the MS3 in the Canadian winters or would you rather have AWD with the Railliart? I've been getting pounded with snow in the Cleveland, Ohio area and snow tires with AWD is amazing!
What's the price up there for the MS3?
That might help your decision.
What's the price up there for the MS3?
That might help your decision.
I'm loving the value the Ralliart has for the money
a comment about the body roll, coilovers cost $1500 usd approx.
I know the answer, get whatever you feel is right for you. MS3, WRX, OR EVO, or whatever!
Weird RA in Canada is the cheapest among of them and wow the MR is effin expensive... Here in the US it would be
Mazdaspeed 3
Wrx 4 door
Wrx 5 door
Ralliart
Evo X gsr
Evo X MR
The subie wrx here comes base without fog lights and smart key and came with ugly design LOL... And the mazdaspeed 3 is the dorkiest and goofiest look ever with those grind smiley bumper
Mazdaspeed 3
Wrx 4 door
Wrx 5 door
Ralliart
Evo X gsr
Evo X MR
The subie wrx here comes base without fog lights and smart key and came with ugly design LOL... And the mazdaspeed 3 is the dorkiest and goofiest look ever with those grind smiley bumper



