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Old May 9, 2011, 07:24 AM
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Pig Rich during and just after wot shift

So I posted this over in the SST forum first, then had it moved to the X tuning section... still not much feedback from others. Wanting to see if anyone else has noticed very rich mixtures during wot shifts and just after....... This what I have been feeling as a bit of hesitation just after the shift..


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Trying to figure out if this is something unique to my car or if all the stock turbo or even x turbo swapped ralliarts tend to do this.
Old May 9, 2011, 04:33 PM
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You might want to perform a spell check on the title of your thread Mr. Mod....
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You're running a modified version of Bryan's map right? What were his thoughts?

I'm on a full custom tune, and haven't noticed anything that severe while logging, but know a few on the "GST" maps, so it'd definitely be helpful information.
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To be clear, you aren't talking about the WOT to Off throttle enrichment like this right?

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Yeah mine does this. I seem to recall having logged this a while back, even caused some mild knock when the change to rich was extreme (like more than 1.5 afr)
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Originally Posted by Slee256
You might want to perform a spell check on the title of your thread Mr. Mod....
Fixed, though it took me a minute to find it
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Originally Posted by razorlab
To be clear, you aren't talking about the WOT to Off throttle enrichment like this right?

Nahh, it's the dip in the middle of this shifts while at wot. As the revs drop during the shift the afr nose dives down to 10:1, once the revs start to climb again the afr stays there for about a second or so then goes back to where it should be for that section of map... like this:

Code:
Sample	RPM	  Load	Timing	MAF_gs	APP	PSIG	AFR
30.00	6054.69	 193.13	17.00	233.14	96.62	17.71	11.39
31.00	6214.84	 190.00	18.00	235.54	96.62	17.23	11.65
32.00	6398.44	 185.63	19.00	235.64	96.62	16.40	10.43
33.00	5953.13	 187.81	12.00	217.36	96.62	17.37	10.00
34.00	5218.75	 206.88	9.00	216.20	96.62	20.61	10.57
35.00	5144.53	 218.13	8.00	226.32	96.62	22.35	10.09
36.00	5296.88	 218.75	8.00	231.28	96.62	21.82	10.35
37.00	5367.19	 215.00	8.00	228.92	96.62	21.14	10.04
38.00	5382.81	 212.81	9.00	227.46	96.62	21.09	10.09
39.00	5445.31	 214.06	9.00	232.34	96.62	20.90	11.26
40.00	5609.38	 207.81	16.00	230.94	96.62	20.13	11.52
You can see where it jumps from 10.09 up to 11.26 at sample 40.

I'm gonna start logging IPW and see if that sheds any light on the situation.
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Is there any light knock associated with that drop from 11.65 to 10.43, down to 10.00 (which is probably lower, I'm assuming this is just like my Pro Sport with a range of 10-20afr)?
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Originally Posted by sstevojr
Is there any light knock associated with that drop from 11.65 to 10.43, down to 10.00 (which is probably lower, I'm assuming this is just like my Pro Sport with a range of 10-20afr)?
No knock that i have ever logged, but yes the wideband is a 10 - 20 range (PLX). The wideband does have some minor voltage output variation (fixing that this weekend I hope), but the rich dips are for sure pegging the wideband at 10:1 or a second or so.
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