Ebay FMIC's actually perform well?!
Originally Posted by _EVOled_
I noticed that the eBay intercoolers only big difference (from buschur) is that they use 3" inlets/outlets instead of 2.5". Cant you just use a silicone coupler to connect it and it would be fine?
I'll be trying that shortly, we'll see how it goes.
Someone was asking which eBay FMIC to buy. I will tell you one guy not to buy from. His store name is "autox2" and he is lousy! I can tell you from firsthand experience, as I bought one from him and will NEVER do business with him again! He was VERY poor at returning emails and doesn't know jack about what he sells or Evo's in general. Don't buy from this guy: http://stores.ebay.com/autox2 You'll be sorry if you do!
Here's a much better source: http://stores.ebay.com/Just-Intercoolers this is who I would buy from if I did it again.
Here's a source for silicone reducers & such: http://www.siliconeintakes.com/
Here's a much better source: http://stores.ebay.com/Just-Intercoolers this is who I would buy from if I did it again.
Here's a source for silicone reducers & such: http://www.siliconeintakes.com/
Originally Posted by _EVOled_
Anyone have more info about the eBay one? Im starting to be swayed into saving $500 compared to buschurs...
Originally Posted by _EVOled_
Too bad just intercoolers doesnt have the same 4" race FMIC like Buschurs with the same dimensions. The one with the 3" outlet/inlet does...
http://www.siliconeintakes.com/detai...94f5f6295d54ac
I just installed the XS Power IC today. I could feel no noticeable gains or losses with it. Install was more of a PITA than I would have thought it should have been. Actually had to modify the front fascia a little bit and cut a little plastic away to make it fit right. No big deal here just was a true bolt on at this rate.
Had to bend the stock IC coupler on the cold side and it fit. On the hotside I am using a LPI LICP which there I used a straight 2.5" coupler. Fitment with this pipe is a little bit for concern although it works.
Looks better than the stocker so at least I can walk away knowing that.
Had to bend the stock IC coupler on the cold side and it fit. On the hotside I am using a LPI LICP which there I used a straight 2.5" coupler. Fitment with this pipe is a little bit for concern although it works.
Looks better than the stocker so at least I can walk away knowing that.
Originally Posted by mchuang
I have said before honda guys have been using this intercooler before us and make 600 - 700 hp on it. I have actually witnessed it with my own eyes.
No one was is saying people havent made alot of power... my issue and i believe the issue with the other poeple is how efficiently it is doing it?? how much MORE power will you see with a more efficient intercooler?
Originally Posted by kf6ytc
yep, but you won't get that response from most people on evom because everyone here is in bed with buschur/ams and they won't admit the product good for obvious reasons
...but also most tuners will tell you if you have a mix of different parts (ie not their brand) that the car wont get you optimum numbers..how hard they try with outsider parts I dont know, since thats not my specialty...but I dont want to go through the headache...thats why I chose one vendor for ALL my parts.
Well let's clear some things up.
1. The Ebay IC's do not use the same core that we do. Our core alone costs way more than their complete IC kit with piping!
2. I have tested our core Vs. the ebay IC twice. Guess what, in a direct swap we lose 5-8whp on a stock turbo evo with the Ebay IC. Are you going to feel that on your butt dyno?, probably not, but you just paid money for something that is barely better than stock. On a bigger turbo car you start losing even more power.
3. I've looking into getting cheaper cores to drop our pricing, and each time I do I get dissapointing info/results. There is much more to an IC core than the way it looks from the outside.
1. The Ebay IC's do not use the same core that we do. Our core alone costs way more than their complete IC kit with piping!
2. I have tested our core Vs. the ebay IC twice. Guess what, in a direct swap we lose 5-8whp on a stock turbo evo with the Ebay IC. Are you going to feel that on your butt dyno?, probably not, but you just paid money for something that is barely better than stock. On a bigger turbo car you start losing even more power.
3. I've looking into getting cheaper cores to drop our pricing, and each time I do I get dissapointing info/results. There is much more to an IC core than the way it looks from the outside.
AMS, do you have any documentation to post up about the tests you performed? I would like to see some hard numbers other then what I have experienced through my own R&D.
I feel bad for you guys because someone obviously copied your design and is undercutting you big time. However I've compared my Ebay IC to your IC which a friend has on his IX and visually they are 100% IDENTICAL. From the bar and plate design to the end tanks, 100% identical.
also on my car I didn't experience any drop in MPH at the track, it actually increased, with the addition of the Ebay IC, I was able to run more boost & more timing w/o knock compared to the stock IC.
I feel bad for you guys because someone obviously copied your design and is undercutting you big time. However I've compared my Ebay IC to your IC which a friend has on his IX and visually they are 100% IDENTICAL. From the bar and plate design to the end tanks, 100% identical.
also on my car I didn't experience any drop in MPH at the track, it actually increased, with the addition of the Ebay IC, I was able to run more boost & more timing w/o knock compared to the stock IC.






