I see what you mean -- that was sort of a downer. I think perhaps they set their expectations a bit too high. If it did everything the Evo did, as well as the Evo did it, it'd be an Evo.

It's a shame they saw fit to write the article in the Evo vs. RA context, instead of the more realistic RA vs. WRX vs. MS3 vs. SRT4 comparison.

 

I agree. I did not like how the article was written. Mitsu made this car to compete with the WRX not the X. Why compare it to an Evo? That's just stupid in my opinion. Did they think mitsu would be offering the exact same evo stuff in a Ralliart for a lower price? Anyhow, this thing will blow away the WRX. Power should be sick with few parts. Hell, bolt on an evo turbo with BPU's and you're in X power categories. Only limitation at this point is the SST which could prove very capable.

 

Well i may end up getting a GTS over a Ralliart

 

Yup, never settle unless you are willing to pay the price for it. I did that for my first car and bought a 2g eclipse gs? the non-turbo FWD model. Either way, I could have saved up 3-4k more and could have bought a gs-r? the turbo FWD or even a gs-x the turbo AWD. Trust me when I say I was stoked with my car it was awesome but the alternatives passed was a big mistake. Also, for the person that wants the GTS just get it, it sounds like that is what you want anyway.

On topic, I think that this will beat the WRX with a fair margin. I know that people love the 5mt but I think the TC-SST is going to be a hit (heck it is probably one of the main reasons I am looking into the RA). I was on Nasioc reading up some of their thoughts and they think the same thing (That Mitsu did a great job). Hopefully SoA will step up their game and give as an even better WRX. It will only be better for us enthusiasts in the end.

 

Some nice details -- around US$27,5000, and also good to hear it will be 17/25 mpg (I thought it would be 18/25, but close enough... https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...56&postcount=7)

[also very nice that that price works out to $32-33k in Canada, which is only slightly more than the $31-32k I expected to pay back in February when I decided to buy one of these -- likely to be in the neighbourhood of Cdn$38k loaded]

 

This article proves that they need to keep it lower than that. I don't think Evo Lite for $27.5 is gonna sell much. With the SST, they can maybe come in just over the WRX at $26,500 for the base model, but any more and they need to make it less Lancer GTS and more Evo.

 

Agree 100%. Althought the RA might be a better car, it is the price point that is going to win in the end. If it is 27k or over the base is starting to creep toward GSR levels. Just speculation but we'll say 2k for the recaro's, hid's, and stereo which will push it to 29k or more which is definitely in range with the evo. I hope they match the WRX or slightly under cut them for base price. Purely my opinion but I think that will lead to more people jumping ship and buying the RA.

You also have the MS3, Civic SI, etc crowd so if you price it too much over them, you will not draw potential buyer's away. I know those aren't in the same class but those that aren't niche shopping and looking for a general performance car for a good price may jump to the higher RA. I think 25k sounds like a threshold that some people don't like to cross.

 

on the info to the MPG
If the car has less power then the X, why is the MPG worse then the X?

Isn't the X getting like 18/25
while the RA is getting 17/25 or is that still speculation?
anyone hear anything on this yet?

 

mitsu lists the X gsr at 16-22

the MR gets 17-22

so the RA gets marginally better mpg

 

The RA MPG is still speculation and is not confirmed. Read the article again. Also it did state that the 5th and 6th gears are taller compared to the MR for the exact reason of drawing better MPG.

 

Ahhh.
Thanks To Both Of You.

 

The way that the 4b11t responds to mods in the GSR it should be the same in the ralliart since they have the same exact motor exe turbo an intercooler, Im buying one. I think the ralliart get the 100k warranty while the GSR/MR only get the 60k?

 

Hello all again,
browsing the car world and found this in motor trend.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ive/index.html

I think a more objective article then the road and track one. From the sound of it, both mag's were probably at the same first drive event but R&T came out first. Alot of the information in this one has already been speculated on. But, First for me was the weight is supposed to be 140 lbs. lighter then the MR. The est. base of 27k is not thrilling me since Edmunds, R&T, and now MT have all estimated it around there.

Not too informative from what we have already heard and really no new info on driving impressions but it is a good read. Also, it is nice to hear the RA recieving positive reviews so far.

 

If the base price is indeed $27.5k let's hope south coast will be making some smash deals!

 

Interesting, one thing I did notice was that its supposed to be 130lbs lighter than the evo (with same transmission) at 3470, yet I've heard the evo weighs anywhere from 3350 to 3500, which is about the same if not lighter.