Blew up with AEM? Anyone else.......
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From: Milford, CT
Originally Posted by Pruven
What the hell is Juan going to post on here that hasn't been said. Oh maybe where his car went? Did it happen at your shop or did he tow his car home first? Detonation causes bearing damage. Juans motor had bearing damage. You detonate motors. End of story.
Dan @ Pruven
Dan @ Pruven
That would be nice if he had them for 1. I can examine them and 2. if they are good I can maybe retreive some of the money he scammed me for. That ex- customer of mine bounced a $1200 check on us and took all the parts, the car, and the labor with him. With that being said and all this other bull aside would you help him out? We can see what kind of people we are dealing with here. I have all night.
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From: Milford, CT
Originally Posted by metaphysical
This is almost humorous, now we have Pruven running themselves through the mud.
The only one running themselves into the mud is the one person who tuned all the cars on this thread. Didn't your motor get French Fried too?
Dan @ Pruven
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From: milfort ct
Originally Posted by TurbotrixRacing
hasty hasty dan,,,
Juans motor had bearing damage when it came to your shop, you put a band-aid on a open wound. Who replaces bad bearings without replacing the crank.. ( well dan does ) Hence the reason why you never got paid. You should def not " slap " motors together. Juan will attest that his pistons were perfect ... I dont know where he towed his car, it wasnt back to your shop thats for sure. End of story .
Mark
Turbotrix
Juans motor had bearing damage when it came to your shop, you put a band-aid on a open wound. Who replaces bad bearings without replacing the crank.. ( well dan does ) Hence the reason why you never got paid. You should def not " slap " motors together. Juan will attest that his pistons were perfect ... I dont know where he towed his car, it wasnt back to your shop thats for sure. End of story .
Mark
Turbotrix
Originally Posted by DA-4BANGA
Dude, point well taken......Thank you for clarifying 
Yes I did think u were chewing me out a bit, but I know u didnt low blow though. Reading this post again helped realize you were just making a statement based on your opinion and I actually respect and accept that
Apologies are due on my behalf and that I do........SORRY DUDE!!!
I apologize....
I brought the point of your past posts because I have found them to be quite informative and helpful and thats what this forum is supposed to be. You as well as myself and others have been through several nightmares and have posted with the intention of helping others prevent the same scenario.........
So with that said........Besides my apology, I also owe you a
or two 
Yes I did think u were chewing me out a bit, but I know u didnt low blow though. Reading this post again helped realize you were just making a statement based on your opinion and I actually respect and accept that Apologies are due on my behalf and that I do........SORRY DUDE!!!
I apologize....I brought the point of your past posts because I have found them to be quite informative and helpful and thats what this forum is supposed to be. You as well as myself and others have been through several nightmares and have posted with the intention of helping others prevent the same scenario.........
So with that said........Besides my apology, I also owe you a
or two Cheers Bro....i'll take you up on that offer anytime...
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From: Danville/Blackhawk, California
Originally Posted by DynoFlash
Shiv, I greatly respect your insight into ecu concerns. However, I question you WHY NOT run a knock control system on a ecu?
To me saying that knock protection is not a cure all is like saying that rubbers don't prevent against ALL STD's - sure thats true. But they cut down the risk. You still use one - just like knock control - becuase its prudent to take precautions.
Assuming that the tuner has carefully calibrated the tune to run knock free under all desired operating conditions and loads, would NOT a knock control system act as a back up measure in the event of human error or other unforseen conditions?
Even though it is REACTIVE - is it not better to have the ecu pull back timing and add fuel after a knock reading than have the ecu do NOTHING and continue the knock?
Ecu systems have become so fast at adjusting knock - e.g. Subaru that Fuji Heavy Industries has a patented system of ignition adjustment that relies on the ecu listening to knock and adjusting the timing on the fly. I know none of this is news to you.
Respectfully, you post has me most curious and I seek your input.
To me saying that knock protection is not a cure all is like saying that rubbers don't prevent against ALL STD's - sure thats true. But they cut down the risk. You still use one - just like knock control - becuase its prudent to take precautions.
Assuming that the tuner has carefully calibrated the tune to run knock free under all desired operating conditions and loads, would NOT a knock control system act as a back up measure in the event of human error or other unforseen conditions?
Even though it is REACTIVE - is it not better to have the ecu pull back timing and add fuel after a knock reading than have the ecu do NOTHING and continue the knock?
Ecu systems have become so fast at adjusting knock - e.g. Subaru that Fuji Heavy Industries has a patented system of ignition adjustment that relies on the ecu listening to knock and adjusting the timing on the fly. I know none of this is news to you.
Respectfully, you post has me most curious and I seek your input.
Shiv
Originally Posted by Pruven
The only one running themselves into the mud is the one person who tuned all the cars on this thread. Didn't your motor get French Fried too?
Dan @ Pruven
Dan @ Pruven
Dan the only reason you havent blown anything up is because you havent tuned anything .. I have all night as well ..
Mark
Turbotrix
Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu
Al-- what kind of det cans do you use?
shiv
shiv
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/pro_d...re&dir=catalog
I also use the Knock Link a lot - I know you don't like that one - I do.
What kind do you use?
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[QUOTE = boostnaliljuice]
hey u no i did that 1 time to some dirt bags in con. some shop called pruven they built me a weak motor the motor had less than 1,500 mile on it and it blew up( never mind that they took 3 months to buld the dawm thing and they never took the block out the car.the car was rolled in and out the shop for 2 month and all i got was storys and ly's ) the guy who built the motor only changed two main bearing (i got that on the receipt to prove it)car was tuned at tubrotrix the best shop in the east coast (they give fair prices and when u go pick up ur car they DON'T add 400 or 500 dollars to ur bill out of no where)and they dismantled the motor and found out it was two main bearing that gave up.[/QUOTE]
hey u no i did that 1 time to some dirt bags in con. some shop called pruven they built me a weak motor the motor had less than 1,500 mile on it and it blew up( never mind that they took 3 months to buld the dawm thing and they never took the block out the car.the car was rolled in and out the shop for 2 month and all i got was storys and ly's ) the guy who built the motor only changed two main bearing (i got that on the receipt to prove it)car was tuned at tubrotrix the best shop in the east coast (they give fair prices and when u go pick up ur car they DON'T add 400 or 500 dollars to ur bill out of no where)and they dismantled the motor and found out it was two main bearing that gave up.[/QUOTE]
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From: ct
Originally Posted by groovytang
[QUOTE = boostnaliljuice]
hey u no i did that 1 time to some dirt bags in con. some shop called pruven they built me a weak motor the motor had less than 1,500 mile on it and it blew up( never mind that they took 3 months to buld the dawm thing and they never took the block out the car.the car was rolled in and out the shop for 2 month and all i got was storys and ly's ) the guy who built the motor only changed two main bearing (i got that on the receipt to prove it)car was tuned at tubrotrix the best shop in the east coast (they give fair prices and when u go pick up ur car they DON'T add 400 or 500 dollars to ur bill out of no where)and they dismantled the motor and found out it was two main bearing that gave up.
hey u no i did that 1 time to some dirt bags in con. some shop called pruven they built me a weak motor the motor had less than 1,500 mile on it and it blew up( never mind that they took 3 months to buld the dawm thing and they never took the block out the car.the car was rolled in and out the shop for 2 month and all i got was storys and ly's ) the guy who built the motor only changed two main bearing (i got that on the receipt to prove it)car was tuned at tubrotrix the best shop in the east coast (they give fair prices and when u go pick up ur car they DON'T add 400 or 500 dollars to ur bill out of no where)and they dismantled the motor and found out it was two main bearing that gave up.
i think this was already brought up a while ago. do you ride the short bus
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From: Milford, CT
Originally Posted by groovytang
[QUOTE = boostnaliljuice]
hey u no i did that 1 time to some dirt bags in con. some shop called pruven they built me a weak motor the motor had less than 1,500 mile on it and it blew up( never mind that they took 3 months to buld the dawm thing and they never took the block out the car.the car was rolled in and out the shop for 2 month and all i got was storys and ly's ) the guy who built the motor only changed two main bearing (i got that on the receipt to prove it)car was tuned at tubrotrix the best shop in the east coast (they give fair prices and when u go pick up ur car they DON'T add 400 or 500 dollars to ur bill out of no where)and they dismantled the motor and found out it was two main bearing that gave up.
hey u no i did that 1 time to some dirt bags in con. some shop called pruven they built me a weak motor the motor had less than 1,500 mile on it and it blew up( never mind that they took 3 months to buld the dawm thing and they never took the block out the car.the car was rolled in and out the shop for 2 month and all i got was storys and ly's ) the guy who built the motor only changed two main bearing (i got that on the receipt to prove it)car was tuned at tubrotrix the best shop in the east coast (they give fair prices and when u go pick up ur car they DON'T add 400 or 500 dollars to ur bill out of no where)and they dismantled the motor and found out it was two main bearing that gave up.
and? post the rest of it
Dan @ Pruven