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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 10:01 AM
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2JZ,

Are you running speed density or are you still using your MAF? Your list says stock intake so I was just curious. Also, any wideband setup or not? Thanks.
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 2JZfan
Thanks for the comments. I have tried so many different combinations of trigger (between 2 and 20) limit (between 50 and 300) sustain (between 0.5 and 15) and sensistivity (between 50 and 95). With four different variables and let's say at least 3-4 different values for each, you are looking at between 80 and 250 different combinations. I obviously haven't tried them all, but I have tried many!

I first disabled accel fueling altogether (limit = 0%). I then made very long (5th gear up a slight hill) pulls holding load constant. I did this at 40kpa, 70kpa and 100kpa. Doing this the accel contribution would be basically nil and it allowed me to tweak to fuel map to get the right values. From there I started adding on accel enrichment and getting the in-gear stuff working well wasn't too hard. But off-idle and free revving were horrible. I need a lot more fuel for them. Even with the modifier tables at 100% across the board I just wasn't getting enough. The only way I've been able to get a clean 0-50-0 TPS free rev is by doing 300% limit. Anything less and the car goes super lean and stumbles. However, any limit value over 100% causes massively over-rich conditions when driving in gear. In those cases the car goes < 10.0 and stumbles from being lean. So, for months I have been trying every combination I can dream up to try to get both extremes working properly. No luck so far.

I am going to try to get some more results on wether the boost comp is really working or not.
I has made exactly the same as you have done. My Accel on EVO was pooooooor. Everytime i wanted to change gear under wot it made a lean spike (lag in power) and after 200-250ms it turns on again. I was hopeless. I tryed to do it only with TPS Accel , but my friend told me i should use Boost Accel too. But the change in boost level on idle to 100kPa is not as great compared to change from 100kPa to 280kPa when on Boost. So once the Boost Accel fuel on near idle was perfect, but on boost way too much.
I was thinking about it very long time. I tryed to use my Supra setting too (it worked perfect on it) but on the EVO nothing. After that i was down. But new idea has come! Every time you shift, your ECU do massive Deccel ! and than Accel ...... so new idea was the Deccel is way too strong! And yep it was the key!!!
Another hour of tuning, copying all tables of Accel Warm up enric, Accel Modifier, dTps etc....... and it was better again.
So and another thinking about it. I realise that my fuel map is way too lean on very low load at high RPM (20psi on 5000RPM ......) i made corrections on that areas, and i had improoved it again.
Accel fuel is now way better, but still not perfect. Hope it will give you ideas how to continue.
Please give me FB.

Karel
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