I don't understad why they don't just add direct injection and make a taller 6th gear and call it a day? Easily add 3-5mpg to the highway number

 

Lets just hope its lighter than the X.

 

this seems like the diffrence between the golf gti and the "city" golf... brand new product comes out and all of a sudden a golf from years past gets sold as a lower end model... seems a bit wonky to me.. personally having just bought an evo 10 i'd rather not have 9's avalible.. as new.. it would just lower my resale value even more than it already is. I"ll probbaly drive my 11 till i can test drive a 14 and if it's any good i may try to sell privately and then buy the 14.

 

What I can't figure out is the almost schizoprhenic decisions that are being made in the automotive spectrum. On the one hand, you have companies following green initiatives to the letter as well as the spirit such as Honda and now apparently, Mitsubishi. On the other hand, Ford is planning on coming out with a 650 hp Shelby GT500 for 2013 and Chevy is about to release the ZL-1 Camaro. Seems like Nissan still is interested in improving performance on the GT-R, hence the major upgrade for 2012.

Most of the car manufacturers are looking at using lighter materials to improve fuel efficiency. I really wish Mitsubishi would strategically use more aluminum, magnesium and composites to build a lighter Lancer. Then, with direct injection and possibly a hybrid configuration that could either allow the vehicle to be driven on pure electricity, or better, switch to addinig extra power to the engine like KERS does in Formula 1. This way, fuel efficiency would be up, emissions would be down and enthusiasts would have an even better performing Evo than the current X.

As for apagan lamenting the loss of the beloved 4G63 and wanting it back, virtually the entire industry has gone to open or semi open blocks like on the 4B11T for cost reasons. Quite simply, it is easier to cast an open deck block than a closed deck. There seems to be discussion back and forth about superior cooling on an open deck block, but regardless, open/semi-open blocks are here to stay. For my part, I wish that there was a way to have a closed deck aluminum block on the Evo. Something that could withstand a lot of boost, but I am dreaming....

 

i don't understand why emissions is even a big damn deal. 95% of carbon dioxide emissions to this day are from natural causes. of that 5% like 4% is from power plants. i believe it's less than 1% of all carbon dioxide is from cars. so the government is ruining cars for no apparent reason? damn foolish is what it is. that is why damn near no where else sells cars that are low emissions. why? to make cars needlessly more expensive? by the way, damn near any current combustion engine car can be made to run on hydrogen. not some electric hybrid, crossbreed crap either. i mean hydrogen gas ignites similarly to gasoline. and hydrogen being the most abundant substance in the universe wouldn't deplete. why not do it? because you can be a greedy bastard with an abundant substance that is why we don't charge people to breath it's stupid. but no, we will make every car either some nasty diesel junk or electric that you can drive for 80 miles then charge for 18 hours. i mean what the hell? as for composites, they are expensive to make, thus raising the prices of cars i suspect that is why they don't use them. steel is dirt cheap. i mean 4 cents a pound for steel compared to 25 cents or so for aluminum. in some cases i wish mitsubishi would not use aluminum, like in engine mounts. the one place you want steel and you don't use it?

 

^ Mitsubishi Rayon is working in conjunction with Toray Industries and the University of Tokyo to develop composites to replace many parts using steel that uses a revolutionary method of manufacturing. Mercedes and BMW both have committed to radically reduce the amount of steel in manufacturing in the future in order to produce significantly lighter vehicles. There is a synergy in using a lighter vehicle by allowing smaller engines, increasing fuel economy and better performance. Mitsubishi is actually a leader in this field. Here is the article:

Carbon fibre could soon be as easy to process as metal following a breakthrough by a consortium that includes the Mitsubishi Rayon Company, Toray Industries and the University of Tokyo.

According to developers, the material, made from carbon fibre and a plastic that can be shaped with heat, takes just around two minutes to mould in trials and could make cars significantly lighter. It is believed that this time can be further slashed to just one minute with automation and parts made from the material can be welded together or reshaped with heat as if they were made from metal.

It is hoped that the material can be used in a number of car components including bodies and engine parts.

Over the next two years, the consortium will experiment with making various car parts from the new material and will work with established manufacturers such as Toyota, Nissan and Honda to develop the technology for mass producing parts made from the material.

Link to that article: http://www.thegreencarwebsite.co.uk/...rayon-company/

Link to Mitsubishi Rayon: http://www.mrc.co.jp/english/product...ial/index.html

Mitsubishi has demonstrated with the Evo that it is capable of a world class affordable performance car that uses an extremely sophisiticated awd system. Regardless of their green emphasis as of late, they are certainly capable of coming out with an Evo that is state of the art.

 

Wow...

I don't get it. It's carbon fiber, but not. Whatever, as long as it's just as strong or stronger and quality is good and cheaper to make, I'm down.

 

that's true but they could just make all aluminum chassis in the meantime but i guess it costs too much. that would be the cheapest and greatest improvement IMHO.

 

this is gonna be interesting

 

I want a diesel evo that pours out black smoke at the track!

 

Yeah, soot tune. Got a friend with a Chevy diesel truck who has a soot tune. The truck looks like an old time locomotive with that tune. Future Evos will now have this capability!

 

According to the service manager at SCM, the evo x1 will be a 4cly/w electric motors at each wheel. Almost like a Rc car. Producing around 350hp/tq.

 

^ You know, I have gotten to the point of pretty much rejecting out of hand, any comments made by service managers and salespeople. There was a thread recently about a dealership claiming that there would be no 2012 Evo's and look, there are 2012 Evos. I seriously doubt that SCM is getting inside information about the next Evo. About all we can go by is official corporate Mitsuspeak and they have said that there will be a diesel hybrid. It would be cool if indeed there were 4 electric motors, one at each wheel. Talk about instant torque and acceleration!

 

I'm definitely keeping my Evo8 and picking up a 9!!! IMHO the Evo died after they stop building the 4g63. It's gone in the direction of the Eclipse Come on Mitsu!!! You call it a Evolution. Its Evolving into something ugly thats for sure!!!

 

^ The 4G63 was epic, no doubt about it. However, it seems like most car companies are going to semi closed decks, most likely for easier manufacturing. The 4B11T is a pretty decent engine in its own right. Maybe not as good for all out power like the 4G63, but it still can provide decent power levels. And, the Evo X platform is very good. I do agree that Mitsubishi is not really "evolving" their cars in the strictest sense. Evolution should bring with it greater performance and handling. Not sure how the XI will play out. We might all be very surprised.