We can talk all day and night, but id rather just wait for confirmed specs.

 

^--- yep. and performance numbers.

I'm actually excited about the rumors. Excited is engineering some new tech. I say BRING IT!

 

^ Migs, if the next Evo can equal or better the X, everything will be forgotten about what drivetrain is being used. There is a distinct possibility of this happening. However, if the next Lancer is bigger and heavier and the performance is much less than the X, then I will be one of those saying that the X was the last "real" Evo. Hopefully, technology will rule the day.

 

I agree with you. It's all about the performance for me. I want to see the car win championships, not get to the grocery store "quickly" .

I really wish would let us help... but then again, all the X haters wouldn't be much help. "Put the 4g63 back in, cut 900lbs off, and give us candy cane dispensers" . Realistically, they need to increase mileage to make it to the 2018 ruleset. Maybe it can be a stepping stone for that, maybe now.

Two years ago, if you asked me if nice performance cars would be around 2018, I would have said no. But everything all of these companies are doing is definitely peaking my interest. I want to see the torque from electric, torque / mileage from diesel, etc. I want technology to go to the next level. Lets bring it ! You can rule the roost once again.

 

Agreed as well. It is all about performance. Gas, diesel electric, nuclear, flux capacitor, it doesn't matter. I think most of us know that in 10 to 15 years from now, cars will be somewhat different from now.

 

I'm waiting on performance numbers, specs, and price. I love my EVO 8 and plan on keeping it forever, but I will be getting a new car in 2014. Which one depends totally on Mitsubishi. There are a few cars that are coming out in 2014/2015 that I am looking at and one that just came out in 2013(technically, two). I want the most bang for my buck. And, I want something that will hold value.

One thing that Ford did was replace the standard power steering pump with an electric one.

 

One thing that Ford did was replace the standard power steering pump with an electric one.[/QUOTE]

ive always been a fan of both ford and mitsubishi but i do have to say ford has come a long way and are building a damn good car, rumors have for their next gen mustang it will be lighter have irs and *hopefully* keep the same hp/tq

ahh what happen to the good ole days when the evo and sti could hold their own stock for stock now it seems all we have are track courses, and seeing car & driver's lighting lap we don't really have that anymore

 

I disagree to be honest. I felt after looking at the Lightning Lap that people simply looked at the final lap time and ranked them by that, missing all sorts of valid conclusions. While everyone else was busy misinterpreting the information, I actually noticed that they essentially uncovered a rather interesting and embarrassing fact about the Mustang.

Sure the Mustang was 2 seconds in front of the Evo but I still think it lost. Just look at the numbers!

The weight was pretty close, the Mustang heavier by only 83lbs. However the Evo with 121 horsepower less, ran within *2 seconds* of it.

Of course nobody noticed and only saw that the Mustang "won". How many other cars with 121 less horsepower and similar weights run within 2 seconds on a tricky course like that? Anyone? Bueller? The weight difference alone is worth less than 10hp to the lighter car yet it somehow kept up while lacking 121hp. That's not something to miss!

It tells me the Evo has a serious finesse and handling advantage. So much that it's just begging for more power to lay down some serious lap times. I bet if they added 50hp to both cars and re-ran them the Evo would see a better drop in lap times proving that it's horsepower limited and making better use of available horsepower compared to the Mustang.

Sorry for venturing off topic but I had to disagree with him. The new cars may win in a drag race but they still haven't caught up on the race track. Lightning lap proved it for me. We still own the race track.

 

thread needs cliff notes because theirs no way in hell am reading all of this

 

I am keeping my IX.
But I will also have the XI. Which I believe adds a complete different aspect to the Evolution world. Whatever it may be, it will be fit to the evolution standards. Hasn't it been done in previous years?
I will be a new era for cars, including tuning and modifications. To me it will be exciting to find out what the XI will be capable of. Long wait

 

Cant argue with this.

 

If the petition was to revive the evo 8 and 9 platforms, or an offshoot of them I assure you 80% percent of the community would sign it. Not to mention all the old timers that had left or just detached themselves from the community since the 10s came out, we would see many of them come back.

I look around me and look at how much of an impact the 8s and 9s had on the aftermarkets businesses it was amazing, this is simply because those previouse generations were easilly modifiable ect, notice that shops did not pay much attention to the 10s, everyone I sorounded myself with did not go crazy about the 10 and are not crazy about a similar car.

Keep the hybrid nonsense, give us back the 4G63 rock solid engine, with a platform that we can play with like we could do with the RS and GSRs

 

Notice the phrase "you surrounded yourself". Why don't you surround yourself with an evo community instead of specific people especially if you want to push products on them.

Are you really saying the 8 and 9 was easier to modify than the X? Give me a break. Once again you are talking without evidence. The X has proven itself ten times over that it takes mods just as well.

Ask any of the manufacturers why they didn't produce parts and it revolves around more than one issue. Very poor economy, mitsubishi pulling out of rally, less sales of cars for all manufacturers across the board. The Evo aftermarket scene wasn't down, all aftermarket scenes were down. Then add in the knock off manufacturers in China who are quick to copy products and you have even less of a reason to produce quality parts.

Also emissions, safety standards and building a pure Gruppe-N car is what made the X what it is. There is no going back to the 8 / 9.

 

Although the X might "take to mods just as well" it's not as easy to mod if you work on the car yourself in my opinion.

Having the turbo in front of the motor is much easier to work on compared to the turbo practically against the firewall. If you boost leak test often it's a regular chore compared to the easy access the 8/9 provide.

Changing the weak plastic clutch master cylinder may be cheap, but it's a crappy job for a DIY guy who doesn't just throw money at the problem. Changing it along with the clutch is harder since you are changing two variables at once.

After trash talking the timing belt on the 8/9 the X owners now have chain stretch problems left and right. Again not a DIY friendly problem until Tephra's program can reset the stretch indicator only the dealer has access to. Of course newer cars have new chains but those aren't as attainable as the cheaper 08's for many.

I like both the 8/9 and the X platform. From a mod perspective they *are* close in capability and I agree with migs. But if you work on the car yourself and want to avoid headaches I feel the 8/9 will take you farther on stock parts. But a lot of people just pay shops so it's a moot point for many.