Everything we "know" so far about the Evo XI, is that it will be a hybrid diesel. That alone tells me the car will be much heavier than the current version Evos.
Regardless of that, I probably use the Evo XI as my daily driver and keep my 2.3L Evo IX as the beast.
BOOM!

 

how is that?

 

I recently picked up a 2012 Ford F350 SD with the 6.7 Turbo Diesel stock is 400hp 800tq.
The tune and exhauset will yield from 40whp-165whp.
A simple tune and exhaust yields huge power and torque!
I never knew turbo diesels have so much potential until now?!?
Can't wait for diesel EVO!

 

From Hungary...lol
1.9l turbo diesel intercooled VWpolo quarter mile runs for start from my nice old country. Not a 2014 diesel technology for sure, not even close.


another diesel :

another diesel

 

I plan on doing same thing but with my X.

 

good read for later

 

Hey guys im new here but i have some input on this topic. I think alot of people always think of a prius or the like when they think of a hybrid but depending which way mitsu goes this can be a great setup.

I think boost caps (ultra capacitors) instead of regular batteries is the way to go for this set up. Boost caps charge very fast and discharge even faster. While the turbo diesel is idling or not being used to its full extent, the reserve power can then be used to charge up the boost caps which will give a boost every time you step on the gas.

If one is drag racing then the boost caps will put out instantaneous max torque and as they discharge the diesel would have reached its peak power and then take over. If one is track racing then every time the car slows down (during a corner/breaking) the power can be by passed to the boost caps to charge and then used for the straights.

I think if mitsu takes this path, then the Evo XI will be a beast. Im part of a hydrogen racing team that uses this set up but instead of using a turbo diesel we have a hydrogen fuel cell and it definitely works!

 

Sounds like a pretty solid idea..

 

it will be fun if mitsu really make this idea happen on XI

 

I hate to call you out on this, but I don't think you have your facts straight, and even if this boost cap energy is used somewhere in some manner, Mitsubishi will DEFINITELY NOT utilize this technology.

There are a few problems with this concept:

1) Capacitors are best used for very short bursts of energy. Using caps in a car in the manner you suggest means they will only be used for supplemental short term power. The purpose of going hybrid (at least for Mitsu) will be to increase fuel economy and "boost" caps don't help this whatsoever.

2) Capacitors are HEAVY. Currently the best energy density of a capacitor is in the 3-4 joules per cubic centimeter range. That means to get the equivalent of a 100HP boost, you would need something the size of a small file cabinet, and even that would only give you this 100HP boost for a second, and require over a minute to recharge using an standard EVO alternator.

3) High Energy Capacitors are expensive. You are talking multiple thousands of dollars for a high energy density unit.

The theory just doesn't hold water for being used to help with fuel efficiency.

 

I agree with you on the fact that mitsubishi probably wont use this and again for the fact that they are expensive. But i disagree on the rest. The boost is not for just a second. How much hp are you expecting to get out of a battery pack? its not gonna be more than boostcaps.

Ive been working with a boostcap system for 3 years now and what your stating might have been true say 5-10 years ago but this is not the case anymore. Also boost caps are used in all electric cars at the moment to extend the life of a battery pack which experiences fluctuation in power. Maybe mitsu chooses to go with same set up but increasing the number of boost caps. Maybe also combining it with a kers system.

Boostcaps have alot of applications you can read up more here:

http://www.maxwell.com/index.aspx

Also since when does mitsubishi try to save fuel they always make the least fuel efficient cars

 

i found this little article interesting:

http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-new...-ar132170.html

 

...for those too lazy to click. Interesting stuff.

 

LOL, I was a capacitor engineer for 3 years with Maxwell's subsidiary capacitor company.

As for battery energy vs boostcaps, you get far more energy out of batteries (4.68 MegaJoules in a Prius battery) than Capacitors (< 1 Megajoule in the LARGEST capacitors). Sure the capacitor has the ability to discharge fully within seconds, but again, that's not what a hybrid car is looking for. Now, you could obviously change the loading to discharge slower to make your boost cap last longer (and act like a battery), but why do that if we've already stated that batteries have vastly greater total energy.

As for boost caps being used in most hybrids, they are either short term energy, or used in filter circuits....NOT for long term (>5 secs) power delivery and never to replace batteries.

 

I copied the post from the article:

We’ve already heard that Mitsubishi is working on a new generation Lancer Evo, but it looks like its actual production may happen earlier than expected. Mitsubishi UK has announced that once the last 10 units left in stock are sold, the current Evo X will officially be discontinued because of the strength of the Japanese yen. According to Lance Bradley, Mitsubishi UK’s Managing Director, the price would have to double for the Evo X to continue being produced: "We used to sell the Evo for £30k; now we would have to charge £60k."

Instead, Mitsubishi UK will focus on the successor for the Evo X because of the Lancer Evo’s importance on the UK market. The problem with that is, while the standard Lancer is set to arrive in 2014, the Evo performance version is still not signed off for production.

Aside from confirming the discontinuation of the EVO X, Bradley also confirmed that the next Lancer Evo will drop the current high-revving turbo petrol engine in favor of a hybrid drivetrain combined with a diesel engine. The model will remain a four-door sedan and not turn into a hatchback as previously rumored.