"Evo XI" rumors, speculations, and media reports.

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Jul 25, 2012 | 12:36 PM
  #541  
if mitsu comes out with an evo that is as fun or better to drive than current evo X (speed, agility, handling) , and it gets 30+mpg, i dont care if it runs on dog turd or any other fuel that is not more expensive than 93 octane gas

i really dont get what people are still complaining about in this thread, months after it was started,...
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Jul 25, 2012 | 03:22 PM
  #542  
Quote: if mitsu comes out with an evo that is as fun or better to drive than current evo X (speed, agility, handling) , and it gets 30+mpg, i dont care if it runs on dog turd or any other fuel that is not more expensive than 93 octane gas

i really dont get what people are still complaining about in this thread, months after it was started,...
My sentiments exactly. Who cares what it runs on or whether it's a hybrid or not. Bottomline is if the XI is faster, more agile, more capable, better looking, better built, and as tuneable; most here will be very happy indeed.

The cars is years away from going into production, Mitsu has not offered details on the XI, car is not even in conceptual design phase (according to Mitsu it will start work on car in 2013), there are no official concept sketches from Mitsu, yet, folks are panicing over the next Evo. I guess change and uncertainty are not a good combo when tampering with what many consider an already formidable car.

IMO, XI will be a quantum leap over the current model and will blow us all away.
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Jul 25, 2012 | 05:59 PM
  #543  
I am excited about !!!!! I hope it will be good and not a disappointment!!
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Jul 26, 2012 | 12:19 AM
  #544  
Damn i sure hope it look s better than the current one!
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Jul 26, 2012 | 02:13 AM
  #545  
A hybrid won't be a viable sports car, just as they are not even viable daily drivers currently. They cause more pollution being built than regular cars (dem batteries.) they are slower than regular cars (again dem batteries, and the electric motors), they don't offer better mileage than regular cars (sorry but I had a honda crx that got epa 50mpg, it was like a 89 or something) and VW polo blue motion what ever gets an absurd mileage rating.

A hybrid performance car? Naw, pass. I don't need a performance car that has to lug around a crap ton of extra batteries, and electrical motors.

Now if this new ever were a Turbo, highoutput, direct injection diesel that gets 35+ mpg yes please. I will take that. Especially if it were AWD.
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Jul 26, 2012 | 04:31 AM
  #546  
Quote: A hybrid won't be a viable sports car, just as they are not even viable daily drivers currently. They cause more pollution being built than regular cars (dem batteries.) they are slower than regular cars (again dem batteries, and the electric motors), they don't offer better mileage than regular cars (sorry but I had a honda crx that got epa 50mpg, it was like a 89 or something) and VW polo blue motion what ever gets an absurd mileage rating.

A hybrid performance car? Naw, pass. I don't need a performance car that has to lug around a crap ton of extra batteries, and electrical motors.

Now if this new ever were a Turbo, highoutput, direct injection diesel that gets 35+ mpg yes please. I will take that. Especially if it were AWD.
I don't think anyone, including Mitsu, expects the XI to get 50 MPG or become a Prius. A reasonable target would be a combined MPG of 25-30- a vast improvement over existing car. The Evo has always been about innovation, cutting edge design/engineering, and performance. What makes anyone think Mitsu will sacrifice that criteria and alienate their customer base by building some flacid soccermomobile? It won't happen.

IMO, performance and efficiency are NOT mutually exclusive; Mitsu will prove this in the XI.
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Jul 26, 2012 | 06:10 AM
  #547  
Quote: i don't think anyone, including mitsu, expects the xi to get 50 mpg or become a prius. A reasonable target would be a combined mpg of 25-30- a vast improvement over existing car. The evo has always been about innovation, cutting edge design/engineering, and performance. What makes anyone think mitsu will sacrifice that criteria and alienate their customer base by building some flacid soccermomobile? It won't happen.

Imo, performance and efficiency are not mutually exclusive; mitsu will prove this in the xi.
+1
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Jul 28, 2012 | 01:05 AM
  #548  
Quote:
Now if this new ever were a Turbo, highoutput, direct injection diesel that gets 35+ mpg yes please. I will take that. Especially if it were AWD.
Japanese industry seems to disagree with you:
Announced cars for next 2-3 years are NSX V6 petrol-Hybrid, Supra I6 petrol-hybrid
Japanese seem to like dem batteries.
Evo I think would net somewhere about 40mpg with diesel/hybrid concept and while having 350-400 hp which doesn't seem bad at all.
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Jul 28, 2012 | 09:28 AM
  #549  
Don't like it at all !! I don't like the looks or engine choice! I'm fine with ix and will never change it for any othee evo.
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Jul 28, 2012 | 10:02 AM
  #550  
I'll stay with my IX.
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Jul 29, 2012 | 01:36 PM
  #551  
Quote: A hybrid won't be a viable sports car, just as they are not even viable daily drivers currently. They cause more pollution being built than regular cars (dem batteries.) they are slower than regular cars (again dem batteries, and the electric motors), they don't offer better mileage than regular cars (sorry but I had a honda crx that got epa 50mpg, it was like a 89 or something) and VW polo blue motion what ever gets an absurd mileage rating.

A hybrid performance car? Naw, pass. I don't need a performance car that has to lug around a crap ton of extra batteries, and electrical motors.

Now if this new ever were a Turbo, highoutput, direct injection diesel that gets 35+ mpg yes please. I will take that. Especially if it were AWD.

lol, 1999 called; it wants its position on hybrids back



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Jul 29, 2012 | 06:49 PM
  #552  
^ Just an FYI. The Audi R18 E-tron uses a flywheel to store energy, similar to what Porsche used on the 911 GT3 Hybrid. When they say hybrid, they mean that they are using stored energy from the flywheel to assist the engine at speeds above 75mph. The Audis could not run sans the diesel engine as the flywheel is much like KERS in F1. However, Toyota had a true hybrid at LeMans with the TS030 that has a 3.4 V8 that is capable of running on battery power in an out of the pits. It is an environmental statement as much as performance enhancement. Toyota was allowed to use battery assist without any speed limitations because the electric motors power the back wheels while the Audi flywheel powers the front wheels, essentially making it a quasi awd car.
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Jul 30, 2012 | 10:57 AM
  #553  
Im very curious to see what this one's gonna do, Maybe be a competitior for the Poopbaru BR-Z. Or something to just stomp on subaru all together. Mitsubishi has been doing it right, making changes to the motor unllike subaru which has kept the same ej253 in their since 2004 and can touch us evo owners.
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Aug 6, 2012 | 11:27 AM
  #554  
Quote: Im very curious to see what this one's gonna do, Maybe be a competitior for the Poopbaru BR-Z. Or something to just stomp on subaru all together. Mitsubishi has been doing it right, making changes to the motor unllike subaru which has kept the same ej253 in their since 2004 and can touch us evo owners.
Not to debate but Subaru did make changes to their USDM engine lineup over time. Starting from 08 with the STi they switched to the EJ257 which is technically a better design then the EJ253 but it was plagued by bad factory tuning and defective/substandard componentry (ringlands) plastic endtanks on high pressure components. I had an 08 STi before trading it for the Evo X and I should have been at risk more so then the 2011 2012 people yet my engine was fine.
Everything else gave me headaches but that's a different story. On the next STi they will go with the newer FB engine which will be a vast improvement over the EJ so in a way they are learning form their mistakes while keeping the car fresh.

Personally I think Mitsubishi should tweak their plans a little and reconsider hybrid technology. I have driven some diesels in Europe that were outstanding engines. They were punchy, not very noisy, and got excellent fuel economy. 40MPG was no sweat. If you bump up the power and do some tuning you could have a decent amount of HP with outstanding torque figures without having to result to Hybrid technology which only spoils the fun by requiring special transmission/transaxle arrangements all while adding weight. Plus like it has been mentioned before, is far more devastating to the environment to build batteries then driving around with efficient cars.

Seriously when you get more efficient parts and optimize with tuning you get both more power and as a byproduct optimized fuel consumption provided you don't drive like you're in the WRC all the time.
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Aug 6, 2012 | 02:45 PM
  #555  
Making 350-400 hp on a hybrid that gets 35-40mpg. Where the hell is the argument or the problem there? ..
The world evolves, and so does technology. Like it or not.
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