My latest Car and Driver said Evo XI is coming out 2015. I just sold my X and I'm not sure I can wait that long lol.

 

maybe hybrid will come then, but as far as I know UK Mitsubishi already moved Evo's of the sale cause of replacement coming in 2014. Just a little more (end of 2012) and we will know how will EVO XI look, I am anxious to see that, as far as I know on MME meeting in Vienna this year that is strictly confidentional there were 3 options that were about Lancer and still no pictures of how will Lancer lineup look.

 

The EVO needs to have a power-split/series-parallel drivetrain. If they put the engine in front, paired with an electric motor, and two electric motors in the rear, the front drivetrain will need to be series-parallel so that the engine (at times) can directly assist the front electric motor. Any design other than that would off balance the system.

The advantages with this design are performance, power and efficiency. One engine/motor for each wheel allows maximum power to the ground under all conditions, including racing/track environments, and the engine paired with the electric motor/generator upfront means that on long drives, the two, rear electric motors will propel the vehicle while the front electric motor is driven as a a generator in order to replenish the batteries/power the rear electric motors.

The disadvantages are complexity, cost and weight. This will be Mitsubishi's first attempt at something like this, and tuning that type of hybrid system (especially for use in a performance environment) will be very complicated... though I have faith. The cost and weight are things that are unavoidable; however, and it could be argued that, by using three smaller motors instead of one large motor, the cost will actually be less because they are producing in bulk. Also, the weight resulting from this system really is inconsequential since, the bulk of the weight will still come from the battery.

Of course, I think that Mitsubishi will find that, as they work on the platform, a turbocharged engine really is unnecessary. I have mixed feelings about diesel (I would really prefer to see gas/E85 flex fuel option), but really, either would work. The added weight and complexity of the turbocharged engine would offset any actual gains.

 

Are you saying that Mitsubishi UK stopped getting more 2013s to sell?

It is not uncommon for Mitsubishi to skip a year before releasing a new model. In the US at least, we've seen a 1 year hiatus between some model years, so discontinuing the EVO X in 2013 doesn't necessarily mean the XI will appear the very next year.

 

Its been on here: http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-new...-ar132170.html
Yen problems ...
I think Mitsubishi has to focus on giving a more commuter confortable(pocket wise), daily driveable edition in next model. Like AS&G, MPG geared gearbox and to do something general about its engines fuel consumption in general. And to think about evolving as Gt-R does from year to year. Like making "11.5" after 2 years and so on. Mitsubishi's stagnating sale problems are not car conceptual but more of basic marketting and economical nature, they're not bad machines, its people that sell them that are miserable.

 

I think it should be twincharged or have a compound turbo so that it can make big top end power too... lol yeah like that will happen

And aren't diesles heavy? Won't that throw off the 50/50?

 

We will have to wait and see...!
Evo 8 and 9 ... best ever!!!

 

When was the last time an EVO was 50/50? 60/40 if you're lucky.

 

Well, with subaru developing a new impreza sti which is going to have more horsepower and torque on tap, and a possible focus rs coming in a few years, i personally think mitsubishi will make the XI like they have with all the others. At somepoint someone at mitsubishi will wake up and realize that a "green" Evo is a huge mistake.
Just my 2 Cents

 

I really don't understand the cynicism in this thread at all. Electric motors outperform internal combustion motors in EVERY way. An electric motor has Full torque available at ALL parts of the speed curve. You could smoke your tires off before you move an inch if setup to do so. They can use regenerative braking so you DON'T NEED brake pads. Although, I'm sure they have not fully developed that feature on cars, works hella good on Ships and I'm pretty sure they have a little more inertia than a car. For an example of an all electric motor performance, just look at the Tesla Roadster (http://www.teslamotors.com/roadster).

Additionally, you can program and control that motor to NEVER allow your tires to slip. You can sense that slip of the motor inside a Flux Vector controller well before the tires actually slip. You can switch power from motor to motor without any mechanical connections. Any issue or mod you want to make is mostly a software tune and will not require additional parts unless you want to change out factory batteries for aftermarket batteries that are lighter and have more A-Hours.

The only area that gets a bit concerning is they hybrid power plant. Coupling the electric motor with a Fuel motor (be it diesel turbo or the current or some upgraded gas motor) is overly complicated and a critical point for failures. If I had any suggestion to them at all, it would be to forget all that and just use whatever Motor as a generator ONLY. Charge the batteries and stay out of the propulsion.

Hell, at that, skip the diesel and just put a Fuel cell in there. Then, you might have something awesome there. Don't even start on deriding fuel cells too. If they are good enough to power a Submarine, they can run a car.

 

The next Impreza G4 STi will likely be released as a hybrid too, or might at least have that option.

In terms of regenerative braking, it is effective, but not effective enough to stop the vehicle all by itself. Especially in emergency situations. You can get away with smaller brakes (which Mitsubishi will likely consider for weight purposes), but you will still need some form of physical brakes.

And as far as linking the internal combustion engine directly to the driveline, I have mixed feelings about it. It is more complicated, but it does provide some performance and efficiency advantages. The one thing I am sure of, though, is that there is absolutely no reason to make it a turbo. Maybe if it is a 1.0L diesel, but I don't see that happening.

 

There is about a .0001 chance of subaru makiing the next wrx and sti hybrid. it has already been confirmed they will be normal gas boxer flat 4's as they have been, based on the new impreza and slightly more modified than before. Nobody wants a hybrid evo or sti, i still doubt mitsubishi will go through with hybrid evo. just my .2

 

Ok I think there is something to this thought. Right now the common perception of electric cars is that they are a little freakish and econutty, And that is generally the case. IT would be wise for Mitsu to wait until that perception has evolved. There are no performance cars mass marketed that are dual powered. Maybe after Porsche has marketed an electric assisted car people will come to see it as a positive. I guess what I am saying is Mitsu is such a small figure in the automotive world it won't have the presents to bring such a novel concept and make it a success.
On the other hand it would certainly be a obscure classic desirable to the collector in a number of years.

 

I cant see any type of hybrid being a obscure classic.

 

What you guys are forgetting is that these auto manufacturers don't really have a choice. They are required to meet CAFE standards, and there are penalties for not doing so and rewards for meeting compliance early. And these CAFE standards aren't just American; Japan has some of the strictest compliance requirements (we are talking about Japanese companies, after all).

While the current launch of the new STi/WRX won't be hybrid, the G4 platform that Subaru has announced will be a hybrid. Word on the street is that they are investigating a new vanadium battery technology, which is lower in overall energy density, so they are probably looking to step into the market with a mild hybrid first. Something else to note is that, outside of the STi/WRX (but sometimes including them), Subaru's primary market are tree-hugging-hippies, and those THHs will demand that their car be just as green as the next THH.