The more I think about it, you may be correct with your initial assumption that the electric motors will be mounted directly to the wheels. When combining electric motors to a drivetrain that also has an ICE, it becomes more difficult to recover energy, unless like you said, you add a planetary gear for the ICE...something that allows the electric motors to become isolated from the ICE when regenerating.

Either way, this is an engineers dream...so much going on here, I wish I could work for Mitsu!

 

The more I read this thread, the more I think that Evo will not actually come as a hybrid at all, soon.
Why? Outlander PHEV is not even being sold yet. Everything you say conceptual about that sounds like: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$,$$
The money that I think Mitsubishi cant afford to spend on low volume sportscar, yes compairing with it with possible use on econocars, where the price might not be so higher than usual ones, the Evo one will come as 6 digits one. But soon everything will be revealed.

 

I don't think it will be that expensive, but I do agree it might take longer than anticipated to produce. I mean, normally a lot of rumors are out in the year preceding the release, so we will see early next year, but it's really unknown exactly what they will do.

 

Some say...
I really prefer that Evo remains what it is, and that other cars (which is the current case) take the weight of unfamiliar drivetrains marketwise.
Evo has been thru years a reliable turbo-awd machine(which should've been eclipse for US market, but some dumbass thought N/A Sohc engines are better, and that FWD drivetrain only is cheaper and it won't affect sales), that was no brainer in its own class.
There are other cars like outlander, pajero, mirage or whatever that would be greater starting points for this technology. Doing this to Evo would lose interest in its halo car as we know it, it would no longer be in same price range and it would no longer be what it used to be. It would be like Tesla or Fisker, car that is only attractive to handful enthusiasts that drive it to grocery store and back(or not even that).
There are technologies that are in Mitsubishi's domain to improve the evo further even on this 2007 platform. GDI(mitsubishi license since 1997) fuel supply(would get few more MPG that would certainly appeal customers more than complicated ICE-EV drivetrain), weight reduction, aerodynamical improvements and so on, which I think is more profitable than doing Frankenstein experiment on iconic car.
Yes, change is appreciated and supported from my side, but not in this case:its being done on wrong subject.

 

http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com/en/.../2012/pms2012/

Nothing about the new Evo, unfortunately.

 

Let me ask you this...would you rather have no Evo than a hybrid Evo...because that is where it was heading before mitsu did a 180 and said they would go the hyrbid route. The fact of the matter is Mitsu is choosing to go this route because it's the way they want to take their brand, and I can't say I fault them. Besides the Evo, Mitsubishi has zero market appeal. In order to try and get some back, they are going the EV route...and trying to establish themselves as THE electric company. In order to do that, they also have to make their flagship car EV, or at least incorporate EV principles into it. You can't try and make an EV company and then have a standard petrol flagship car....it just makes you as a company look stupid.

That said, I'm with you on the price...I mean, 45k is getting high for any car, let alone a Mitsubishi. I'm seriously wondering if Im going to spend 50k on a car, should I go new Evo or just get a slightly used M3...I for one am taking the wait and see approach. If I dislike the product Mitsu puts out, I'll buy it...if not, I will look elsewhere.

 

Having Evo no matter what kind of it is good.
However Mitsubishi's brand reputation was made of 2 things, and I think it still made on it:
1. WRC Evo success & Dakar Pajero/Montero success
2. Reliable SUVs
Everywhere where Mitsubishi is successful the main sales are made of L200/Triton(most sold Mitsubishi model), Pajero/Montero, Pajero Sport/Challenger in a large number.
The thing is everything new in which Mitsubishi tried being leader of, ended up being bad(for mitsu). For instance already mentioned GDI technology, Mitsubishi was the first to apply it, and first one to stop using it without no reasons explained, even tho it pioneered it on all engine types. What happened, whole industry uses GDI tech, except their makers, I also saw that Mitsubishi abandoned developing "cylinder shut-down" technology, which is widely used by VW and Honda now.
But still I think Mitsubishi is doing right, cases of BMW, Audi and Toyota reports are confirming that fact. But I'd rather see the technology being applied on this new Mirage with 660cc engine than on model that carries some weight of heritage. Evo is no longer flagship according to them if you noticed, they "think" its the I-MIEV. I have no problem of having Hybrid being part of Evolution trims, but the thing about evo is, its better to keep it the way it is, and advance it.

 

Well you kinda made my point. They pulled out of WRC, so obviously that's not their focus. And just because their primary selling vehicle is an SUV, I wouldn't say they were "known" for them....and if you asked 100 people on the street to describe Mitsubishi, I don't think even ONE person would say reliable.

...and that's why they are making this EV push. They saw a hole in the market where no one manufacture has come out saying, "we are the EV brand"....and that is what Mitsu is trying to do....just look at there Outlander PHEV they just showed off at the Paris auto show!

Again, that's the reason they thought of canning the Evo altogether...it didn't fit in with their EV marketing focus. After the backlash from fans to keep the Evo, they decided to keep it, but add an EV twist to keep it consistent with the brand image they are trying to establish.

At the end of the day what this might mean is that your average boy racer (like gsrboi!) wont be able to afford the cost that comes with an 50k EV racecar, but I'm ok with that. There has been talk of them trying to make the next gen Evo rival the M3 and S5...if they come anywhere close, I'm all in.

 

great, Instead of E85 we will be trying to rig up the most Lipos from our rc cars to the new Evo lol

 

In the big boy world, you don't just series batteries...you use a power supply (which is essentially a transformer) to get higher voltages.

 

You make some silly assumptions here affording it that's a non issue. Do I want a 50k Mitsu which the manufacturer will not stand behind hell no. I'd go M3/C63 AMG

 

I'm a double E, and what is this

 

I think everyboy would be fine with 50k EV car, but to our sadness I think the price might be even stronger than that.
There are different market standpoints of Mitsubishi for various markets for GCC's, Russia, Europe and US.
For GCC: The Mitsubishi halo car is Pajero.
For Russia: Everything from Mitsubishi is good
For Europe: L200 is only thing you'll ever consider from this brand
For US: Gnawing, loud, unreliable DSM's and Evo, a racecar divinity.
For Japan: Bus accident, which ended up gifting MFTBC to Daimler, and ended up having MFTBC being most advanced truck currently.
I read some Mitsu corporate file, only for Europe and US markets(+Japan) Mitsubishi will attempt at being "EV TREEHUGGING BRAND" while for the rest of the markets it will remain same, unless the new stuff is totally going to outperform the current Mitsu setup(EV). While Mitsubishi is aiming at MPG's, green additude and so on, its main goals are somewhere else, where the sales go well.

 

What's a power supply...is that your question?

 

I guess I didn't really notice where you were coming from...just assumed you lived in the states and had the same perception of Mitsu as I do. That said, I agree, their global marketing strategies are sure to vary based on region. Like you said, here in the US, they seem to be focused on the EV side of the equation. I'm not sure what percentage of car sales come from Europe and US, but if it is indeed a large amount, then it still makes sense to have the Evo follow suit as an EV. I have a hard time seeing them price it at much more than 50k.

50k is already A LOT for a Mitsubishi