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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 12:07 AM
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I dont blame for what their doing. IMO it's very smart. Yes it sucks for us and I wish we could have more models like the IX but truth is there is a bigger market for families and people striving for more economical cars. Therefore by doing this to the evo they will probably increase their sales. Also I'm pretty sure the government has probably given them some under table payment to start fading more into the green market. (sort of like clash for clunkers but for big companies, just a theory)

Im not sure if someone has already addressed that but I didn't feel like reading every page . Just speaking my mind haha.
If people are striving for family and economical cars.. why would they buy ANY Evo? They should just buy the regular lancer model....
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 05:39 AM
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"If people are striving for family and economical cars.. why would they buy ANY Evo? They should just buy the regular lancer model...."

If you can only afford one car, why not get the best of both worlds. I have a Ralliart. (my company pays for it, couldn't talk them into an Evo. lol) I am so happy I have a great performing 4 door that is safe and practical. There is nothing wrong with getting the most bang for your buck. Mitsubishi is smart in that way. I see Ralliarts and Evos with the same Recarro child seat, that I have, all the time.

As far as the performance of the new Evo goes. Can we all agree that every time Mitsu comes out with a new model that is better then the one before it. Yes, yes, I know all you 8 and 9 guys disagree, however, the 10's performance numbers speak for themselves. If they make an 11 I will bet it is inovative and amazing just like the 10 was. I have always loved Mitsu.
Starion, Eclipse, Pajero, Evo, Ralliart, the 4g63, best 4 cylinder ever made IMO.....

Let Mistsubishi due there thing. I know they wont disapoint.
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 07:03 AM
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ev·o·lu·tion   [ev-uh-loo-shuhn or, especially Brit., ee-vuh-] Show IPA

1. any process of formation or growth; development: the evolution of a language; the evolution of the airplane.
2. a product of such development; something evolved: The exploration of space is the evolution of decades of research.
3. Biology . change in the gene pool of a population from generation to generation by such processes as mutation, natural selection, and genetic drift.
4. a process of gradual, peaceful, progressive change or development, as in social or economic structure or institutions.
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 07:55 PM
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BOOOOO, there goes the last good car Mitsubishi makes. Why would they turn there best sports car into a hybrid?
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 06:05 PM
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Diesel hybrid at that. Bah!
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 10:30 PM
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i wish they would change the body style i feel like the 10's are just so big and bulky
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by migs647
ev·o·lu·tion   [ev-uh-loo-shuhn or, especially Brit., ee-vuh-] Show IPA

1. any process of formation or growth; development: the evolution of a language; the evolution of the airplane.
2. a product of such development; something evolved: The exploration of space is the evolution of decades of research.
3. Biology . change in the gene pool of a population from generation to generation by such processes as mutation, natural selection, and genetic drift.
4. a process of gradual, peaceful, progressive change or development, as in social or economic structure or institutions.
Migs, I wonder if a better explanation would be species adaptation. It would seem that the Evo has finished evolving and is now adapting to a new environment, in this case, a world of hybrids, reduced emissions and higher specific fuel economy. Adaptation ensures the survival of a species, but does not necessarily mean that the species is evolving. Thus, Mitsubishi, in order to survive in the marketplace, feels it needs to be more resilient to future fluctuations in automotive design. To evolve, it would have to demonstrate a higher, more evolved form, which I am not sure will happen. Maintaining the status quo also would not suggest evolution. I am certainly not against what they plan to do, but I am thinking that perhaps the X might be the end of evolutionary development.
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 05:44 AM
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Evolution died with the 9, 10 is an entirely difference vehicle all together. 10+ should still be created and are great cars, they should just bear a different name.
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Skott2k
Evolution died with the 9, 10 is an entirely difference vehicle all together. 10+ should still be created and are great cars, they should just bear a different name.
I beg to differ, I mean I do not own an Evo, but the 9 seems to be the best Evo. Again, this is only my opinion, but at least keep they Evolution name
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 06:51 AM
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honda cr-z is crap and now they want to **** with the evo platform? come on. dont ruin a good thing. i seriously hope its just some tree hugging hippies wild fantasy.
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Skott2k
Evolution died with the 9, 10 is an entirely difference vehicle all together. 10+ should still be created and are great cars, they should just bear a different name.
just like the dsm
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by SamsonEvoX
Migs, I wonder if a better explanation would be species adaptation. It would seem that the Evo has finished evolving and is now adapting to a new environment, in this case, a world of hybrids, reduced emissions and higher specific fuel economy. Adaptation ensures the survival of a species, but does not necessarily mean that the species is evolving. Thus, Mitsubishi, in order to survive in the marketplace, feels it needs to be more resilient to future fluctuations in automotive design. To evolve, it would have to demonstrate a higher, more evolved form, which I am not sure will happen. Maintaining the status quo also would not suggest evolution. I am certainly not against what they plan to do, but I am thinking that perhaps the X might be the end of evolutionary development.
Interesting pov. I can't agree or disagree until I see the car and performance numbers. If the car beats the X in all the categories, then I have nothing but praise, and imo would still bear the evolution name.

Everyone needs to keep in mind, that isn't the only company doing this hybrid stuff. Lambo, Ferrari, Porsche, Audi, Nissan are all heading down this path. It isn't by choice, it's from government regulation and oil prices skyrocketing. One of the reasons the 4G63 had to go away, emissions wise it wasn't a sound investment anymore. Also why these cars keep getting heavier and heavier, government safety regulations.
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by migs647
Interesting pov. I can't agree or disagree until I see the car and performance numbers. If the car beats the X in all the categories, then I have nothing but praise, and imo would still bear the evolution name.

Everyone needs to keep in mind, that isn't the only company doing this hybrid stuff. Lambo, Ferrari, Porsche, Audi, Nissan are all heading down this path. It isn't by choice, it's from government regulation and oil prices skyrocketing. One of the reasons the 4G63 had to go away, emissions wise it wasn't a sound investment anymore. Also why these cars keep getting heavier and heavier, government safety regulations.
Meanwhile the next Mazda MX-5 is approaching the curb weight of its first gen Miata. I am glad to see at least one car company doing things right.
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Skott2k
Evolution died with the 9, 10 is an entirely difference vehicle all together. 10+ should still be created and are great cars, they should just bear a different name.
Seriously, when will these rather addleheaded comments cease and desist? The Evo X may perhaps be a better rally platform than the IX. Ask Robevo RS, our resident professional level rally driver, who has a X platform. I fail to see how the X is not the equal or even slightly better than the IX when it comes to rally racing, to which the Evolution was designed in the first place. The 4G63, with its closed deck, was unable to meet stricter emissions' standards, hence the 4B11T with its semi closed deck that offers better cylinder cooling due to higher operating temperatures, all for the sake of reducing emissions. The XIII and IX were superb platforms, no doubt about it. And, I appreciate the fact that the platform was smaller and lighter. But again, the X was designed for stricter crash standards. So, to say that the last "real" Evo was a IX, you are living in the dark ages so to speak.

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Interesting pov. I can't agree or disagree until I see the car and performance numbers. If the car beats the X in all the categories, then I have nothing but praise, and imo would still bear the evolution name.

Everyone needs to keep in mind, that isn't the only company doing this hybrid stuff. Lambo, Ferrari, Porsche, Audi, Nissan are all heading down this path. It isn't by choice, it's from government regulation and oil prices skyrocketing. One of the reasons the 4G63 had to go away, emissions wise it wasn't a sound investment anymore. Also why these cars keep getting heavier and heavier, government safety regulations.
Migs, Ferrari plans to use a KERS type hybrid system in conjunction with a V12 gasoline engine, not a diesel. Basically, they are using F1 technology to offer either greater acceleration or to run on electricity for shorting commuting as I understand it. Same goes for Lamborghini and Porsche. They are using hybrid technology in conjunction with powerful gasoline engines. Truly, I wish that Mitsubishi for its initial dipping its toes in the hybrid waters, would use the 4B11T as it stands, with direct injection along with the hybrid electric motors. That would be a win-win situation as you would have more power with the possibility of modding the engine even further while at the same time, allowing the electric motors to either supplement the gasoline engine or to run alone on pure electricity, thus extending the range of the car. Later, down the road, when things will get tougher, then I could see a diesel hybrid.
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 12:46 PM
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I never said they were going to use diesel, but hybrid

I'm still having high hopes for diesel. Been watching le mans for a while now, wishing I could get that kind of technology
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