OK, I went to the drag strip this past weekend and had a few runs. Here is basically what I had. I had the launch control set at 5300rpms. Seemed to hook pretty good, My best 60ft was like 1.78. That run was a 13.042 at 102.?? mph. I was very disappointed. On the street using a gtech it showed that I should have been like around 110pmh. Of course this is in the evening. It was about 80 degrees and the sun was beating down. I consistently ran 13.4's like a machine after that. I was trying to break into the 12s and after each run it seemed to be falling away. I gave up. The wierd thing is the track put VHT doen the entire strip. ??????? It was like driving through bubble gum. After I left the track, the car seemed faster. Maybe it was the constant airflow cooling things back down or maybe becasue it wasnt so sticky after that. Anyway, as you can see what mods I have, I was curious to get other peoples opinions about these times.

My buddy, who has a turbo M3 ran pretty much 11.6s and 11.8s. Of course he has like 430WHP.

Also, I got my wife's permission to send my car out to a reputable tuner. And havent decided what tuner to send it to for a turbo upgrade and tune. I am trying to post a poll with some options but of course if there are others that I am missing that would be recommended, I would be interested.

 

One thing I noticed in your sig it says your cam gears are set at 0/0.. I know noize on here has dyno sheet showing his cam gears (with the proper adjustment) making 20-30whp on a DD dyno and his cams where around 15-20whp. your definatly losing some power by not adjusting the cam gears, but if TT told you to do it that why or something.. then obbviously there the tuners. They do incredible work and I would never doubt them. I can see where heat soak could be an issue, but with your setup you should atleast be in the mid to low 12's.. all I have is buschur's 3" tbe exhaust, injen intake and intercooloer piping(which is probably hurting me right now untill I get my ecu flashed) and a mbc set at 19.5 psi(don't ask why. I just set messed with it till it was close to 19psi) and I ran a 13.20 @102 and missed 2nd gear. I would expect my car to go 13.1 13.0 like it sits and with a flash and fuel pump it should go in the 12's... I really hope you get your car straightened out.. you have a great setup. good luck

-Chad-

 

You should be able to hit the 12's with what you got. The bubblegum crap will make your car faster It wont spin. One question would be is the clutch slipping? That is my best guess. Obviously with that kinda of modifications you need your car to be tuned to get any decent HP gain over stock just due to the fact of the heavily modified fuel system and the cams. Also, what boost levels were you running?

 

Yes TT did tell me to keep them at 0/0. I am just thinking that something may be wrong but maybe not. It was hot and all that black tarmac wasnt helping either. I dunno. Just want to go faster. I am on stock clutch and its holding great so far so its not slipping.

 

Thats what I thought to. I was tuned by TT a month or so ago. I was running like 22psi on a mix of 100octane unleaded fuel and 112 octane leaded fuel.

 

Send it to AMS.

I ran a 12.86@105 on a Buschur Stage 1 at 5800ft above sealevel. You should have run considerably faster than that.

 

Hey bud, I got your message, that's sux about your times.... I know you are frustrated.

With your set-up, low 12's are common-place with proper tuning. I think that with the software problems you were having during the TT tune you never really got dialed in correctly. I know that you have been experimenting with your UTEC, but that takes a long time to master! I am sure there is some power being lost right now through tuning. With the problems that you were having with the tune I would imagine that TT couldn't tune it correctly or possibly made it worse without knowing it. Not only that but you are also contending with the dynoflashed ECU, even though you are (or aren't) correcting it with the UTEC. I am no expert and you know that, but you definately have all the parts in-line for a very FAST evo. With improper tuning you will actually loose power as you know. I honestly commend you for trying to do some of these things on your own, but I think you defiantely should get an expert on that UTEC and dial it in. Of course our problem locally is that there is no one around Tampa to do it.

I am not sure what vendor to send it to and I don't know enough about them to make an educated call, so I won't vote and scew your numbers. Maybe sending somewhere may be the answer and they can pu the pieces of this puzzle together for you, because you definately have the pieces! As always good luck brother!

 

ahhhhhhh, what was the temp outside?

 

Good to hear from you. Yeah. I thinkyou maybe right. It would have been hard to tune on a dying fuel pump. I may be super rich now with the fuel pump replacemt where before the pump dying was making TT richen it up more to mkae the pump work harder.

 

as far as what vendor to deal with.. they're all great. I would just go with the one you fill the most comfortable with and also the one that is the easiest to deal with as far as where your located at... It would be kinda hard to deal with vishnu being that there on the other side of the US. I would devote all my money to them if they where closer and I had the ability to have my car tuned when I wanted instead of when Shiv comes to atlanta the few times a year. So to say choose one because it's better isn't the issue.

-Chad-

 

Well I would like to lean toward someone close to me as well its just that this is a very important issue and I am expecting top notch. To choose somone across the US makes no difference to me as long as I know the work being done is like if the work was being done on their own car. I dont want some chop shop, slam it in as fast as you can, throw on a dyno and roll. I am about as far off as anywhere considering I am in the SE part of the US. I dont think any of these vendors would do that to a customer but sometimes it can be frustrating for some people and the best thing for people to do is to get rid of it as fast as they can. I am leaning toward Buschur simply becasue I have some their parts. The downside is they dont like the UTEC. I also like AMS. I have none of their parts but I am looking at their turbo kits. If this helps. I am also considering to build the motor and port everything and leave it a 2. 0L or I may stroke it. =) I just need to know my options and with your guys help, I can shorten my search and then call on those vendors to ask my questions and make a final decision. I wish I were closer to any of these people.

 

Leaded fuel will foul your O2 sensors and could cause a very rich mixture and isn't really needed with todays valves and seats.

 

I thought about that to and I had a mix of 93, 100, and 2 gallons of the 112 leaded.

 

Rre

 

BTW, if you do help make a decision please tell us why you chose them.. Maybe becasue you know someone that had work done or maybe yourself, Or any legitimate reason or just to say you like them. Its nice to know that you like them and it helps but really looking for true opinions based on past or current experiences.