So, what you're saying is you didn't want a car that runs 12s easily, because you preferred a heinously ugly rental car that goes 17s and that takes a ton of money spent to go 12s? Or, was there some other reason that the Lancer was for you?

I am on topic. He ran 15s with a turbo kit, which put him close to a stock DSM. Good job. I still haven't been given a reason why anyone in their right mind would get a base Lancer and then turbo it when you could get a much better car for less money and tons more potential. Is it because of the extra 2 doors? I can't think of any other reason.

 

I always wanted a 2g GSX (only DSM I would get), but it's very rare around my area. But the Lancer fit my needs, 4dr realiable daily driver. I know that the car need some serious money to run 12's, that's why I'm not even trying, so high 14's or 15's is good enough for me.

 

hey, dont feel bad guys... i've owned a honda civic since 96' and before my mustang buddies would say the same thing. why mod your honda blah blah blah... it will never be fast. fwd sucks.

now, look how fast the honda civic is, and how far its gone fwd. there really aren't any limitations besides money that hold your base lancer back. if someone was inclined it could be a 9 or 10 sec car.

modding my civic was one of the best choices i ever made, having fwd as a limitation requires you to out think your awd and rwd competition which has traction easily.

honestly with a bigger turbo like an sc61 and some form of engine management, maybe some valve springs and retainers, race gas, and slicks 11's is not out of the question.

sometimes i want to just pick up a base lancer and do some mods to it, run a decent time... and maybe then the evo guys can let you mod your car in peace.

 

find even a ****ty little stock dsm intercooler(~$20) and get some piping to it. that should help some. or try a mkIII supra intercooler. that's a better bet without breaking the bank.



and yes, some of us need the two extra doors (like myself) some of us are stuck in our situation where the more "bang for the buck" car just doesn't fit. i actually can't afford either so i just say the lancer is my learning car before i jump onto a better platform. so we're stuck "wasting our time" because we have to. and i'm sorry, a wrx(at least during 02-03 when i got mine) was just too ugly with the bug eyes. 1G dsm's are ugly too.

i have the coincidental privilege of having all 3 cars at my house: my ****ty lancer, a fp3052 2G gsx, and an evo ix. they belong to my 2 roommates. i cry every day. i cry even more after i get to drive either.

 

next spring sounds good to me, i know a couple lancer/evo guys around morristown who wanna meet up to.

we can all get crunked and go to warrtalons house so he can tell us how stupid our turbo aspirations are.

but seriously, im down

 

this is my exact reason.. this is my 1st tuner.. and i need to learn the basics before i step into a bigger platform.

 

same here. this is the car im learning on. I wouldnt trust myself to mod a more expensive car yet...

 

dude, you are so dense. do you understand that some people want to do different things? not everybody wants a cookie cutter recipe DSM. some people want to try new things to go fast. turbo lancers aren't anything special on the drag strip mainly due to traction problems while launching. there have been turbo lancers hitting 13 seconds, with lsd, and/or boost control. you just don't seem to understand that taking a 100 hp car, and added 100+ whp, is more of an accomplishment for some people than is taking a 250 whp car and adding 50.

 

I'm just not able to shovel out all the cash for insurance on the evo, so for now I'm happy with my lancer.

I'll be driving this car until I'm out of college, so I've begun collecting my turbo components off wrecked 2g eclipses. Christmas should help. Theres a turbo lancer in Morristown and it makes me want one so badly...

 

A 2 second drop is a huge improvement, doesnt matter if its from 17-15 or 13-11, and if my memory serves me right, your interior has different front seats and a new steering wheel, were not going from mitsubishis to infiniti's. oh yeah, i looked up the insurance (i dont have a great driving record in terms of tickets) my car's insurance is 1/2 the price of what i'd pay for an evo, and my car's also half the price of a fully loaded evo. And you keep talking about why dont we step it up to a faster car, well i have a question for you: why dont you step it up to a v-8? there are plenty of cars out there that are faster than the evo, take a mustang which is by the way about 5 grand less than the evo, take that five grand invest it in minor performance upgrades, and youll smoke an evo, my stock 05 gt ran with an evo and its an auto, the evo has a nice launch with the awd... but i took it in the end, it looks about the same as the regular lancer with a couple of different body panels, different being they are a lil flared and a it has a big wing...well guess what, ive got the wing lol.

 

I got the new mounts in but I have to wait for 500 miles to launch the car.

I got a firm mount in the front and a flex in the rear. My thought process was that the front bears more load under acceleration than the rear. I think I made a mistake on that though as I can still feel the engine twisting under acceleration. Granted it's shifting alot less but I think the rear mount is the one that should be firm if anything.

On another note the car vibrates at idle. This in itself is not that disconcerting. The hood rattling though is.

Anyone know how to tighten up a hood latch?

WADAD

 

i'd rather have your mounts setup the way it is. firmer in the front than the rear. it'll tilt the engine more to the front which gives it more angle to pull the car forward. the firmer both mounts are, the more you're going to have to rely on your full suspension as that rocking translates to weight distribution. if your front mount is less stiff, then the engine won't tilt forward if your car is peeling out. if you rear is less stiff, your engine will tilt forward first and will tilt more if the car is peeling out. at least i think that's how it goes.

under acceleration(not launch) it'll make less difference because the mounts want to travel to the rear in the same direction. that's in contrast to 'launch' where the mounts want to go in separate directions: 1 up and 1 down. i think in acceleration, the mounts will act more like the sum of the stiffness.

for the hood, you can play with those two rubber scew things on either side of the radiator support bracket or move the latch hinge up and down by loosening the 3 bolts.

 

i guess Warlton is a money manager....just because we have the money to waste on our slow cars doest mean u have to be mad....

 

Thanks Rhyzin...

It was all speculation on the mounts but we'll have to wait and see how the track results pan out. The only reason I was saying I thought the rear should be firmer is to hold the engine more in place. It seems to me like the engine torques backwards under acceleration when it is try to turn the wheels forward. I can feel the weight shift back in the car with a little jerk. Once you press in the clutch you can feel it snap back a little between shifts. This is all under regular driving of course and I still have 400 miles to go to test it other wise. I'm gonna try to get some good miles on in the next few days although I won't be able to track it until after Thanksgiving.

WADAD

Edit: It has to do with leverage in my opinion since the rear mount is further away on from the engine itself than the front mount.
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Kind of looks like this as you know (front mount)----^^^----------(rear mount)
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Just because the rear is further away I believe more force is being exerted on it. Of course the E is for engine and the C is the lower clutch area. Sorry for the crewd diagram. It didn't really work with the spaces either. Imagine the engine in the area of the arrows.

 

burn! i'm glad to see some boosted lancer guys stepping up and supporting us. Oh, and I LOOOOOVE the comments on how ugly the lancer is ROFL

hell wartalon, on the same token, why did YOU buy an evo? hell man, just spill out like 40-50k for the ariel atom 2 and run like 10s all day long in the strip, then go rip on some enzos at the track, oh and did I mention its perfectly stock? don't be a fool, we mod our lancer for the same reason you mod your evo: cause its fun and making ANYTHING faster is part of our obsession (hell, you never see a guy in a civic hb sitting around thinking 'man, my car is so slow, i'm going to sell it' screw that, he's importing type R crate engines and turboing that beast, thats how the game starts)

as for motor mounts, i have firm up front and stock in back. most people agree this is the best combo, even boe. reason is....umm, actually i don't know why, something about engine movement. I bought a firm front and flex rear over the summer and ross (RIPP mods guy) didn't put in the rear cause he told me about how it would make launching worse and even more importantly, it would shake my dash to hell and back. engine movement is pretty minimal as it is with the firm, so i'm happy

when i place my huge RPW order in a year or so (several grand) i'll be getting the whiteline kti and seeing whats up. but remember, a good suspension setup is key too. it would be far more worth it to grab some tein coilovers than try to add another 50hp or so. same with an lsd: those are the mods that don't add HP, but make sure you get every pony you have to the ground effectively