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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 12:09 PM
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Curt, please explain to these guys that the odds of anyone beating or duplicating your 10.9 at 123 mph on the stock turbo is somewhere between slim and none.

I do not want to get into the details of Curt's car at the time he ran the 10.9 on the stock turbo as that is for him to do. I don't want to over step my boundries.

Let me point out though that other than the stock turbo being used the car had more parts on it than Trevor's (which is the topic of this discussion) better tires/wheels and there is a fairly MAJOR weight difference in the cars. There is also the 5 spd vs. 6 speed deal. Curt can explain more if he likes.

Curt's car was here on the dyno recently with the stock turbo on it. He has some things he is changing and he is coming back. I expect it to make more power. As a side note he made more power than anyone else ever on our dyno on a stock turbo. 372 whp and 333 ft lbs. I can only assume this is in the ballpark of where the car was when it went 10.9 before as the set up is very very similar. Curt it out to break his existing record which should put it out of reach of any other human

Curt, wasn't your 60' time somewhere in the 1.50's on that 10.9 run?

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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by matt55
From post #78
"I believe these are runs of Rivera in Eli's black 2.3L big turbo setup.

Driving, yes.

His car, no.

Both Evos, yes.

Stock turbo, hell no."
No, he was referring to the guy who posted timeslips of 132.64 and 137.97mph trap speeds on page 3. Those were not done on the stock turbo and have nothing to do with the car in question. The original author who put down the 436awhp did trap at 123mph according to a post his buddy made on page 3. This was on the stock turbo with pump gas and meth injection.
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Most-Wanted
CONGRATULATION'S

Awesome times

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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by S4 Playin w/u
No, he was referring to the guy who posted timeslips of 132.64 and 137.97mph trap speeds on page 3. Those were not done on the stock turbo and have nothing to do with the car in question. The original author who put down the 436awhp did trap at 123mph according to a post his buddy made on page 3. This was on the stock turbo with pump gas and meth injection.
Thanks , I over looked that they were talking about 2 different car .
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
Curt, please explain to these guys that the odds of anyone beating or duplicating your 10.9 at 123 mph on the stock turbo is somewhere between slim and none.

I do not want to get into the details of Curt's car at the time he ran the 10.9 on the stock turbo as that is for him to do. I don't want to over step my boundries.

Let me point out though that other than the stock turbo being used the car had more parts on it than Trevor's (which is the topic of this discussion) better tires/wheels and there is a fairly MAJOR weight difference in the cars. There is also the 5 spd vs. 6 speed deal. Curt can explain more if he likes.

Curt's car was here on the dyno recently with the stock turbo on it. He has some things he is changing and he is coming back. I expect it to make more power. As a side note he made more power than anyone else ever on our dyno on a stock turbo. 372 whp and 333 ft lbs. I can only assume this is in the ballpark of where the car was when it went 10.9 before as the set up is very very similar. Curt it out to break his existing record which should put it out of reach of any other human

Curt, wasn't your 60' time somewhere in the 1.50's on that 10.9 run?

David Buschur
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I would say there is a 300# weight differance between the cars, mine has no AC, bumper supports, or sound deadening. It also has light wheels, brakes, coilovers, battery and exhuast. The MR has heavy *** 6-speed and ACD.

Keep in mind I drive my car to events and it's fully streetable, but it is a purpose built dialed in racecar, I just get my rocks off by running the stock turbo into the ground.
With the recent changes in susp, clutch and power the car should run 10.5@129, any slower and I will be dissapointed.
The 60 foot on the 10.92 pass was 1.53, next run was 1.51 and the clutch broke, with my recent mods(don't ask, I won't say anyway) it may dip into the 1.3's.

Thanks to Dave I have abut 40 more WHP, the differance before and after the dyno is night and day, all these years of saying the dyno is useless is now biting me in the ***, all my old cars could have been alot faster, live and learn.

I guess if there is any advice I can give to run the stock turbo is get a real susp, good tires, shifting(Shep trans and a good clutch) and a clean tune. Good luck.
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 01:49 PM
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I'm confused Curt... Do you have two different Evos or did you go from the stock turbo to the AMS GT35R back to the stock turbo again?

When are you going to the track?
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 01:53 PM
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He went from stock to big and back to stock on the same car. He ran 10.1s @ 141 on the big turbo, if I recall.
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 04:47 PM
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hmmm..
everytime i see awesome quarter mile times from an evo,, somewhere, somehow, i see the Buschur name.....
i wonder if there is any correlation?? hmm weird,,,,,,

seriously though,,
congrats on the times,, deep into the 11's is awesome! and it seems your tune was super conservative ( as per your request you said),,,
think you will ever get some times from that 20G with an agressive tune? i wan to see these 20g turbos dip into the 10's

again,
BRAVO !
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by CBRE
7.000@101.84, all my runs 11.2 and under netted 100+ in the 1/8th. Rember it's a five speed though.
Curt,

You are the master and I am the amateur but for the 1/8 mile and for this particular case it wouldn't matter much because his speeds at the 1/8 mile must be in 4th.

For me it matters because my car is stuck on a speed at the 1/8 of mile where I am shifting from 3rd to 4th. For Travis he is already well indeed in 4th when doing 97MPH.

my .2c

Carlos

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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by fromWRXtoEVO
Curt,

You are the master and I am the amateur but for the 1/8 mile and for this particular case it wouldn't matter much because his speeds at the 1/8 mile must be in 4th.

For me it matters because my car is stuck on a speed at the 1/8 of mile where I am shifting from 3rd to 4th. For Travis he is already well indeed in 4th when doing 97MPH.

my .2c

Carlos
Your right, either car would be in 4th by the 1/8th, sucks for an MR to go into 5th in the quarter and sucks period for a stock turbo to have to be in 4th the whole last 1/8th, turbo is done by 7500 and you must go another 1000 or so rpm's with little to no power, it's like get to the 1/8th quick then take a nap for the rest of the run, Boring.
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Red1GDSM
hmmm..
everytime i see awesome quarter mile times from an evo,, somewhere, somehow, i see the Buschur name.....
i wonder if there is any correlation?? hmm weird,,,,,,

seriously though,,
congrats on the times,, deep into the 11's is awesome! and it seems your tune was super conservative ( as per your request you said),,,
think you will ever get some times from that 20G with an agressive tune? i wan to see these 20g turbos dip into the 10's

again,
BRAVO !
Yeah, I'm sure I will eventually turn up the wick...I just didn't want to run a 10sec pass before David's car did

Seriously though, I doubt it will happen with my 6spd unless I get the gearing changed which I may do depending on when/what is available. I'm sure you will see David's white RS going 10's in the near future among others like Chris

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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 01:21 AM
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Nice vids! Congrats on the times as well. I hope to see your car at GLD in future events.
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 02:55 AM
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Nice Times!!

im curious about a couple things if you could answer for me...

- on your tune where is your rev limiter set(redline)? stock valve train?

- in the video is shows you warming up your tires in burn out box, with awd i dont think you can spin them all that well unless your making even more power, and on street tires i dont think its worth doing a burn out anyways.... im curious if you tried running by going around the burn out box to get a better 60 foot?
*related question seems in 1st video you spun the tires in 1st then quick shift to 2nd?

- Are you full thorttle shifting? do you have a no lift to shift setup or the stock system?

i think thats all the questions i can think of for now, i might ask more... i would really appricate it if you answered those. thanks!
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 02:57 AM
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also maybe try raising the launch control, that way you would be above the torque curve, even though more HP you might not spin as much... just an idea.

which clutch do you have exactly? im soon to be in the market for a clutch, and wondering how you feel about the one you have, and can tell me a little about it? maybe if you would reccomend it or not and why. thanks!

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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by EvoRecordSetter
Nice Times!!

im curious about a couple things if you could answer for me...

- on your tune where is your rev limiter set(redline)? stock valve train?

- in the video is shows you warming up your tires in burn out box, with awd i dont think you can spin them all that well unless your making even more power, and on street tires i dont think its worth doing a burn out anyways.... im curious if you tried running by going around the burn out box to get a better 60 foot?
*related question seems in 1st video you spun the tires in 1st then quick shift to 2nd?

- Are you full thorttle shifting? do you have a no lift to shift setup or the stock system?

i think thats all the questions i can think of for now, i might ask more... i would really appricate it if you answered those. thanks!
My rev limiter is set at 7700. I have Revolver springs and retainers. Cams are Revolver 264/264.

I have tried going around the burnout box and have always got better 60' times by burning out. I used this method with my GSX and cut low 1.6's and a best of 1.59 with stock sized Falkin Azenis. The tires get fairly dirty after a run especially at some of the tracks were there is alot of sand. At one of the tracks I go to, the starting line guys get kind of pissed if you don't go through the water box and burnout because the starting line gets dirty. At least that is what they told me...maybe they just like to see me burn out It definitely does heat up the tires some and even street tires are a little stickier when they are heated up. Based on my logs, it doesn't appear that I short shifted 1st. I shifted at the same point as the 11.5 run which was 7700RPM (30MPH).

I am full throttle shifting. I have the AEM although I am using the main rev limiter for between shifts.
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