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Old May 25, 2014, 08:19 AM
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Traps vs rpm, 4.11 needed?

I'm looking to see what others are crossing the 1320 at with either a stock FD or a 4.11, and if you use a 4.11, what are your 60'? I read that you can get better than a 1.6 60' if you have a 26" tire.

I'm looking for high nines, staying under 9000rpm, and using my qtp 26"/ fd combo full weight. If I can get away with stock gearing, I'd like that as it's just one more part I'd have to buy. If I stay stock gearing, would I benefit from an evo 9 1st gear?

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don't know if stock gearing will be enough, but I can say for damn sure that on a 26" tire you'll be way below your RPM limit on 4.11
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Ya I heard 60' would suffer on a 26" tire and a 4.11. I guess I'm looking to see what mph equals what rpm in the 1/4 with a stock FD. Like 140=8xxx rpms, 150=8xxx rpms, etc.

I'm looking for high 9s full weight on a 2.2l 6466
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I'd love to help more, but I only ran a 26" tire once. It was a 9 sec run, lol, but I wasn't paying attention to rpm or anything on that run.

on a 2.2L i bet you're good with stock FD with 26" tire up to 155mph, you can rev. I played it safe for the 2.4L.

But, I'm sure guys with more experience on 26" tires will get in here and help you when normal people are awake.
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I did a 1.59 60ft on 4.11+26" tire.

Variables: 2.4L, I had no 2-step, first time on QTPs

I'm no expert but I think 1.4 is doable on 4.11/26" tire, vehicle weight might hurt it some
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Thanks for the info, I appreciate it. I am full weight pretty much (3200lbs).

So, stock FD I'm guessing on a 26" tire I would be crossing around 8700 with a 140mph speed?
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Stock Final Drive Ratio: 4.529

Gearing VIII/5 - IX GSR- IX MR

1st Gear 2.928 - 2.785 - 2.909
2nd Gear 1.950 - 1.950 - 1.944
3rd Gear 1.407 - 1.444 - 1.434
4th Gear 1.031 - 1.096 - 1.100
5th Gear 0.720 - 0.761 - 0.868
6th Gear -.--- - -.--- - 0.693


Speed with stock final drive, 7500 RPM:

------------ 4th --- 5th --- 6th gear
VIII 5speed: 121.7 - 174.3 - n/a
IX GSR 5spd: 114.5 - 164.9 - n/a
IX MR 6spd.: 114.1 - 144.6 - 181.1


Speed with stock final drive, 8000 RPM:

------------ 4th --- 5th --- 6th gear
VIII 5speed: 129.8 - 185.9 - n/a
IX GSR 5spd: 122.1 - 175.9 - n/a
IX MR 6spd.: 121.7 - 154.2 - 193.2


Speed with HKS 4.11 final drive, 8000 RPM:

------------ 4th --- 5th --- 6th gear
VIII 5speed: 143.1 - 204.9 - n/a
IX GSR 5spd: 134.6 - 193.8 - n/a
IX MR 6spd.: 134.1 - 169.9 - 212.8


Speed with TRE 3.84 final drive, 8000 RPM:

------------ 4th --- 5th --- 6th gear
VIII 5speed: 153.1 - 219.3 - n/a
IX GSR 5spd: 144.0 - 207.5 - n/a
IX MR 6spd.: 143.5 - 181.9 - 227.8
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About 8500 with the 4.11 final drive should give you enough MPH for high 9's assuming a good 60 and driver.
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Good thread on it https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/dr...shift-5th.html
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Thanks guys I decided to stay stock fd and an evo 9 1st gear instead. High 9s here we come
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I'm on QTP's with stock gearing but I'm not stock weight. 1.62 60ft with 149 being my highest trap around 8700 rpm. Sitting on the limiter a good second before going through the traps.
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Thanks for the real world info man. I figured I'd save some coin and go with the stock fd for this year. And I built my 2.2 to rev up to 9k-9500rpms so I figure it can handle it for now.

Thanks
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I think 9k would be right at the trap beams on stock FD with 26". I'll let you know in a couple months lol
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Originally Posted by 420a-t
Thanks for the real world info man. I figured I'd save some coin and go with the stock fd for this year. And I built my 2.2 to rev up to 9k-9500rpms so I figure it can handle it for now.

Thanks
What clutch will you be using at that rpm?
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QM 8 leg with a higher tq. capacity pressure plate.


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