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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 09:04 AM
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and in an AWD you might destroy your differential unless you have a limited slip...
In AWD, you might destroy your center diff, if it's a non-electronic differential that doesn't open up with the handbreak. A limited slip is the problem in this case, forcing the diff open is what saves it since even a strong limited slip differential isn't meant to try and balance the power between a completley locked rear (due to handbreak) and front that appears to be rolling with no resistance (relatively). A limited slip (viscous slip in the case of the Evos) would try to counteract the rears locking by locking the fronts and pushing more power to the rears if you got on the gas at all. And even if you didn't the diff may shred since it was never designed to make up for such an extreme differential of speed.
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Old Sep 24, 2004 | 01:14 AM
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i just know that two of my friends have blown up their diffs doing handbreaks one 240sx and the other wrx
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Old Sep 24, 2004 | 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Wangan_X
i just know that two of my friends have blown up their diffs doing handbreaks one 240sx and the other wrx
Well, the 240sx shouldn't have been a problem, so long as he wasn't on the gas at the same time... and realistically, he probably should have had the clutch down too. And do 240sxs even have limited slip diffs? They are just RWD with an open diff, I thought. That means the handbreak would likely put most of the stress on the transmission, not the diff, but that's all conjecture without knowing more details.

But the WRX would have had the same problem as I described above. Handbreak turns are downright rough on a car. FWD isn't really a problem though since it'll just make you skid and so long as you're not anywhere near people or other cars, you'll just lose control, not lose a diff.
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Old Sep 24, 2004 | 09:05 AM
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the 240sx had a 2 way quaife LSD as well as was pushing around 350 whp so that may have been why... all i know is he lost his diff from handbraking instead of feinting
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 09:49 AM
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I have to say i am a huge fan of the drift, i have an automatic and its probably the funnest (thats probably not even a word) thing to do. Esp on wet roads but USE EXTREME CAUTION, if you dont keep control you wont have it for long, lol. Remeber to counter steer if you want to come out straight.
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 10:08 AM
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Sliding with the parking brake is definitely not on par with drifting. Drifting is a power, usually AWD, never FWD, technique that maintains top speed and top spool, through a corner at the cost of a little traction. Drifting is about extreme control of a car, not lack thereof.
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 10:24 AM
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Well i cant afford a 32k AWD car so i drift in my own way =) Its close enough if i can keep moving.
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 10:33 AM
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How do I get my Evo 5 drifting safely?
Originally Posted by neilschelly
Sliding with the parking brake is definitely not on par with drifting. Drifting is a power, usually AWD, never FWD, technique that maintains top speed and top spool, through a corner at the cost of a little traction. Drifting is about extreme control of a car, not lack thereof.
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by JVBEvo5
How do I get my Evo 5 drifting safely?
I didn't say it was about safety. I said it's about control. Pulling the parking brake around a corner is not about control - it's about playing around.
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 11:14 AM
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Using the handbrake is not neccessary as the power of the car is enough. I was asking how i can get the car sideways a little more.
Originally Posted by neilschelly
I didn't say it was about safety. I said it's about control. Pulling the parking brake around a corner is not about control - it's about playing around.
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 11:26 AM
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for a good drifting intro, read this:

http://www.billetdesign.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1606

try in an open parking lot (NOT PARKING BLOCKS!) when its wet, as it will save you a good bit of tire life also nice if you have permission
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 11:55 AM
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the worst thing is over doing your counter steer. i found that if you can (FWD) keep the front tires pointing the way you want the car to be pointing when it stops sliding it is the easiest way to avoid over correcting (and massive rim trauma lol)
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JVBEvo5
Using the handbrake is not neccessary as the power of the car is enough. I was asking how i can get the car sideways a little more.
Well, then don't ask me, I guess. I drive a Lancer OZ - not exactly an AWD monster... I don't know how to drift - I just know that pulling the parking brake is not drifting and proper drifting is essentially being very comfortable with the limits of adhesion enough to drive so close to the edge that you're never solidly on the ground, but still making traction and power in a turn.
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 12:46 PM
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why handbrake in a evo when we have one of the best oem brakes stock?

unless ricer boppers are trying to 'drift' in a AWD car looking to blow your diff then asking mommy and daddy to pay a shop to fix it..


EDIT: if you want to get your car sideways, get a RWD (right wheel drive) car..

Last edited by mr96gsx408; Oct 5, 2004 at 12:48 PM.
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by mr96gsx408
why handbrake in a evo when we have one of the best oem brakes stock?

unless ricer boppers are trying to 'drift' in a AWD car looking to blow your diff then asking mommy and daddy to pay a shop to fix it..


EDIT: if you want to get your car sideways, get a RWD (right wheel drive) car..
RWD (Right Wheel Drive)?

its Rear Wheel Drive
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