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I, for one, welcome the repeal of the 54 cent tariff on ethanol imports and hope that it improves the cost and availability based on larger (and sustainable) producers in South America...

 

no its not the end of e85, anyone can make it so i doubt the price will go up or dissapear

 

Anyone can make it yes... but it is no longer government backed meaning producers of ethanol for public use will no longer be subsidized 45 cents per gallon they create. This will surely lead to dramatically increased prices. If price increases it may no longer be a viable fuel due to mileage vs cost. E-85 was too good to last forever.

 

Even if it becomes the same price as regular grade gasoline I still consider it a deal. Try finding 105+ oct race fuel for anything close. I will still run it.

 

Its not going any place. it will just stay high as it is now

 

The problem is that gas stations might not think the same way. If they can't make money on selling it, they will stop selling e85.

I'd love to be able to run e85 in my car, but I just don't ever see it taking off. It's just not cost effective without the massive government subsidies being pumped into the e85 industry.

 

i hope the government ends the dumb subsidy of e85 cause all it does is cost the government money for something that is unsustainable.

 

Get rid of it ,never had it in my area anyway.Burning your own food supply is plain stupid.

 

I really don't see it doing anything. The 45 cents per gallon goes to the blender, which is the oil companies, but there is still a mandate to blend required by the Renewable Fuel Standard. This may cut into the oil companies profits a little and open the door for cutting their tax breaks.

The ethanol industry has stated repeated times they will be happy to compete with the oil industry if all tax incentives are removed. The ethanol industry more than competes in Brazil. As oil gets harder to find and refine, and takes more and more energy to produce, ethanol gets cheaper and uses less and less energy to produce.

 

E85 in Jacksonville is $.07 more expensive than regular as of today, guess what I still filled my car up with... E85... It has been $3.59 for the past three months...That is super cheap race gas no matter what way you look at it...

 

They will still make money if they know the business. E-85 was never the only answer to energy needs anyway. It just works out fanstastic for Evo enthusiasts as an alternative affordable high output fuel.

I have seen massive governmental funded systems fail and would much rather see entrepreneurship lead the way.

Oh......Kill a US farmer but feed a foreign oil shiek?
BTW it doesn't have to be made from food. Read up!

 

If the price goes to far out of wack, I think more people will just make it at home. Buschur has a pretty sweet setup. The license is free. So you can make your own gas at home. I plan to have a ghetto still setup this summer and run a few test batches using sugar as my source material.

Hell if I could make enough of it, I could sell it local and make some moeny. I know evo guys would kill for e98 . I know I would.

 

Man........first, I don't think this actually went through, the last I read. The link isn't clear either and sounds like it MAY be stopped, as far as I know it failed.

E85 is renewable and sustainable. The corn used for ethanol is used for human consumption in very-very low percentages actually. It is mostly used for livestock feed.

Actually, if you guys want to read a bunch of stuff on this that I wrote, my opinions and what I've found from actually producing it myself, go over to highboost and read my thread on ethanol production.

 

i would much rather subsidize american farmers than terrorist harboring countries. and fuel for food? americans are too fat to start with. eating livestock grade corn isnt helping that.

 

If true, this would be very disappointing indeed. Many people think that Ethanol production is heavily subsidized, but gasoline is not. This is incorrect.

People leave out one very big piece of the puzzle, that being the high cost of the US military industrial complex that provides some measure of stability throughout the oil producing world. This in turn allows gasoline to be readily available in sufficient quantities at your local station.

Once the huge US subsidy of world peace is included in the cost of crude oil, in order to place gasoline and Ethanol on a level cost playing field, it is quickly evident that locally produced Ethanol is a very wise and cost effective energy alternative.