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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 04:16 PM
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We are now taking pre-orders on the cables. Think of this as a "waiting list." We'll be getting these cables in batches; so it's first-come-first-serve. We'll do everything thru Paypal (no exceptions)!!!

http://www.mynesperformance.com/shop...products_id=66

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1. Click on the quantity and add to cart (Please, no more than 2 cables per customer)
2. Fill out the info and check out.
3. In the "note" section, pls included your Paypal address (if you don't have a paypal address, then pls sign up for one).
4. Click Submit and you're done.
5. Once the cables are fully tested and ready to ship, we will send you a Paypal request to the email address provided by you.

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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Matz
It would be neat to see how ECUFlash gets around the 10Hz limitation of OBD II. I imagine that they are using the SCI port on the 7502 to transmit the data, which would be an operation that's mutually exclusive from programming maps.
It will be done, getting data values for logging directly from RAM bypassing OBD II source.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 04:54 PM
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Wow this thread is outstanding! As a "certifiable" (.net) programmer the idea of combining code and EVOs really gets me going.

Kudos to Al for holding forth on the subject. I'm sure some would have expected his tone to be different on this subject. BTW, Al just tuned my car for the second time with his usual success.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by b0ostedEV08
It will be done, getting data values for logging directly from RAM bypassing OBD II source.

I'm assuming that this is the same cable that I just bought from tactrix correct? You're just bundling up a copy of ECUFlash along with it?

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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian_H
I'm assuming that this is the same cable that I just bought from tactrix correct? You're just bundling up a copy of ECUFlash along with it?

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+2 I bought a Cable from Tactrix also.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by EvoRicer
+2 I bought a Cable from Tactrix also.

Yeah, I thought tactrix was going to be the place that they had to be purchased from or I would have waited.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian_H
Yeah, I thought tactrix was going to be the place that they had to be purchased from or I would have waited.

+3. What happens to those of us who purchased through Tactrix? Is the program able to be bundled with those as well?
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by fsugatorbait
+3. What happens to those of us who purchased through Tactrix? Is the program able to be bundled with those as well?
Download the ECUFlash s/w from openecu.org once the new Evo-compatible version is out.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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Here at MYNES Performance and Tactrix sell the same cable. So if you buy a cable from Tactrix or MYNES Performance, EcuFlash and new developments of the software will work. Both cables are the same, and coming from the same source.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by chmodlf
Wow this thread is outstanding! As a "certifiable" (.net) programmer the idea of combining code and EVOs really gets me going.

Kudos to Al for holding forth on the subject. I'm sure some would have expected his tone to be different on this subject. BTW, Al just tuned my car for the second time with his usual success.
I actually expected this sort of positive reaction to the product.. Look at it this way.. You can give anyone a copy of photoshop, or any creative program, if you have talent you can work with the tool and create art.. If you don't, you can work with the tool and create a mess..

My point is, tuners shouldn't be threatened by the fact that there's a tool to "Do it yourself" the reality of it is, the people most interested in doing this themselves, and who will be able to do it sucessfully, are the people that he wouldn't have lost as customers anyway.. In fact, he'd probably gain quite a few after people realize how tuning a car is a little more elusive than just making changes to a few things.

And its not really a threat that "new tuners" would start flashing cars and take away business, because those who intend to be real tuners, would eventually be doing it regardless..

I can only see the entire community benefiting from knowing more about how flashing is done. Many will realize that its best left to the people who understand it, but are just curious about it. For enthusiasts like myself, it gives me another tool to have even more control over my car without resorting to a full standalone which in my state, would be next to impossible to get to pass a yearly inspection legitimately.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MalibuJack
I actually expected this sort of positive reaction to the product.. Look at it this way.. You can give anyone a copy of photoshop, or any creative program, if you have talent you can work with the tool and create art.. If you don't, you can work with the tool and create a mess..

My point is, tuners shouldn't be threatened by the fact that there's a tool to "Do it yourself" the reality of it is, the people most interested in doing this themselves, and who will be able to do it sucessfully, are the people that he wouldn't have lost as customers anyway.. In fact, he'd probably gain quite a few after people realize how tuning a car is a little more elusive than just making changes to a few things.

And its not really a threat that "new tuners" would start flashing cars and take away business, because those who intend to be real tuners, would eventually be doing it regardless..

I can only see the entire community benefiting from knowing more about how flashing is done. Many will realize that its best left to the people who understand it, but are just curious about it. For enthusiasts like myself, it gives me another tool to have even more control over my car without resorting to a full standalone which in my state, would be next to impossible to get to pass a yearly inspection legitimately.
I am very excited about the project of open source ecu flashing and as a tuner I welcome this devlopment with open arms.

Remember, I am not a ecu hacker - I am a tuner - and I have been purchasing my equipment from other companies at great expense - e.g. tech tom, ecutek and COBB access pro tuner, etc. I think its great that these guys have elected to offer this technology in such a low cost (I am very suprized in fact how low the cost its - they are very fair as i am sure they could have charged much more). I am very much looking forward to using it to work on the Lancer ralli Art and 4th gen eclipse models which would have cost me a small fortune to support through the other traditional sources. I can not tell you how many times I have had inquires from the RalliArt Lancer customers in the past two years who have wanted a reflash for their cars. I am pleased I will be able to finally offer one.

Once I have tested this softwear and interphase hopefully I will be able to offer my Evo customers the option to have multiple ecu maps - e.g. street and race maps etc. And a way to switch them at a low cost. Certainly I will offer custom tuning services for those who are interested who have this product as well as base maps, etc. If the devise proves reliable and stable I may be able to offer mail in flash services so the customer does not have to send in his / her ecu, there are plenty of options.

I think that ecu self flashing will appeal to many users who like to do it themsleves and have a hands on approach to the hobby of car modification. I enjoy this stuff and know lots of people who share that passion.

On the other hand there are many customers who do not want to entertain a project to get the car running properly and who will continue to seek out professional tuning services. I note that to my suprize in LA many Evo owners pay to have SAFC's tuned by professional tuners using a pocket logger and the car's narrow band o2 sensor. Also, I note that many UTEC and AEM customers are unable to or unwilling to tune it themselves and seek out professional guidance. Those who underatke the process of ecu flashing will discover that it is more complex and specialized that the other more user friendly applications such as the UTEC or AEM and that hands on experience is very important to master the art.

I am all for this self tuning movement and process, however, what I do not want to see however is the self tuners basically stealing tuning maps that have been created with other tuner's hard work and effort. I am taking steps to protect my tuning work product as intelectual property to protect my investment in time and energy. I hope that no one entering into this "open source" arena has intentions to mis-appropriate methods and ideas of tuning which others have worked hard to create.

I am intending to share many of my ideas and experience with those who are going to self tune with this equipment. I have been and will continue to be a Evo owner and hobbiest first and i will continuie to participate in and contribuite to the Evo community. There is a lot of information I am glad to share and contirbute to the process. However, I am hoping that those who participate in this do not use the equipment to try and steal other people's work.

Hopefully, my vast experience in reflashing Evos and good results obtained will continue to prove of use to those Evo customers who intend to try out this method of tuning. I am looking forward to testing this equipment and seeing what it can do to expand and improve the services that I already provide.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 07:24 PM
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This thing could not have come at a better time, very interesting developments.

Sean

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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 12:12 AM
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very informative thread. can't wait to see what Jay can do for the community...
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 06:13 AM
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Good post Al, it is nice to hear your support of the product.

However, I must point out that if someone has purchased your flash, he can/should be able to do with it as he pleases - besides selling it for his own profit. As long as he isn't turning a profit, I don't know what action you could take to "protect" your work.
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 06:33 AM
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Its very interesting... What I am hoping to see is the "best of the best" putting their differences aside and sharing information that everyone can benefit from..

I do agree wholeheartedly about the Intellectual Property aspects of this, since I used to write and sell software I can understand the frustration (and possible financial hardships) of losing your hard work. But I have come to view this sort of stuff in this way, the people who steal, are likely to do it regardless, and never would have been customers in the first place. Then there are the others, who might try something, and then ultimately pay for the tune after realizing they can't do anywhere near as well as someone with the experience.

Its a fun new world we're seeing evolve before us..
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