I wouldnt go so far to say that. Some cars are finicky, some have unknown boost leaks that are fixed mid-tune. 5hrs on a custom tune is not out of the ordinary.

 

Yes, if actual mechnical things need to be addressed then sure, but if the actual reflash tune itself is 5hrs long then there is a nut loose behind the keyboard. I can't think of any circumstance, if the car is operating properly, that would take even close to that long.

 

3 hours is too long.

2 hours if there are larger injectors, rescaling, larger turbo, idle issues, meth injection, dual maps etc.

5 hours means someone is trying to learn how to flash on your car, run away fast.

 

Agreed, if the car is in perfect mechanical order

 

Jeeze

it's taken me a year to reflash my car and still not there yet

It is time to give my money to someone who can do it better

Just kidding, a tune is as accurate as the conditions it was tuned at isn't (i.e., temp, baro, humidity, boost leaking, plugs, so forth). A slight leak will through it way off

 

 

Let me rephrase what I wrote, He spent 5 hours not only tuning but also doing mechanic work on my car. I had a bunch of little issues that he did not have to fix, not only that but I got 2 seperate tunes and he gave me his boost controller since mine was crappy..

I just wanted to clarify before you start busting someone's chops when in reality he simply gave me great customer service. I understand you're trying to sell and promote your own services, but you never look good bashing other competitors.. Instead you should have responded.. 5 Hours whoa that's a long time.. why did it take so long for a tune.. And you would come off sounding much nicer.. just an FYI.

 

Kunal started with a basemap he got from me, FYI.

 

IMO, tuning never ends. It is based on so many variables that keep changing and therefore, you keep adjusting your tune. If tuning is a business, then you will be concrend about the time it takes to tune. But for me it is a hobby, so I take my time.

I do 3-4 logs @ a time at the same place and time every time I log. I go home and analyze the data, tweak the maps and log again the next day and so on. I am an amatuer and this is my hobby, so there is no need to rush. I really feel for those who do this for a living. It must be a PITA to deal with customers.

 

I'd hate to say it, but I have nothing really to loose so - DynoFlash tuning I feel deserves much more credit than recieved. I do see a good number of IX's with the product making remarkable drag times too

 

Very often cars which start to run may have boost leaks.

I have found in time that a huge proportion of modified turbo cars do in fact have boost leaks, especially ones which sport fmic's and extended fmic pipes

It was refinforced to me recently at a NHRA event when I saw Kenny Tran's team doing a rudementry boost leak test between rounds on his pro fwd civic race car

It is suprizing to me that customers with such ultra high performance vehicles like evos expect the mechanical side of things to remain constant - even with all the bumps - vibrations - climatic conditions - moisture and heat cylcles which cars are exposed to

Most of my base maps and custom tunes are very close to an 11.0 / 1 a/f from peak tq to red line. The hex code does not change over time.

On base maps it is possible that the tune may be off and on the rich side - it has happend before - however generally they are close

I dyno evos just about every day and each tuning session starts with a base map and most of the time its right in the ball park

On a MAf sensor equiped car - a SIGNIFICANT boost leak will result in a rich condition which develops

To the OP if you are interested email me the rom image and I will be happy to provide you free tech support to determine if the rom is correct for your current mod list

Of course if you new tuner errased my map then its a moot issue

Just to point out two different tuners - same rich result - it may be time to look at the mechanical side ?

AL

 

The way I look at a tuning session - it is first and foremost a diagnostic test

When a car comes in often its not running right in the first place and a lot of the time we need to find out what is wrong and fix it

The # 1 thing I have picked up in the last 4 years of tuning evos on a daily basis is my diagnostic skills which are really to me what makes a good tuner

Some of the issues I have picked up recently

Cam cap on backwards

Cam timing off

Bad transfer case (costing 75 whp!)

ignition miss fires

sprak plugs

fuel pump

boost leak

low cyl compression

The list goes on

At Dyno Flash - I try and take as long as it takes to do each tune and some take me literally 15 minutes and others can wind up taking several days

I charge a flat fee no matter how long it takes so it does not harm the customer when I spend more time to get the car perfect (although customers must pay the shop for any thing mechanical needing repaired)

I like to work at a methodical pace to make sure that what I send out is safe and will work for years of hassel free driving

AL

 

I had a base map from dynoflash and Jestr tuning.....I came to a decision on which one was closer. Also from my friends experience.

 

JB got jacked again . Sad.

 

Whats new? Starts because I used to give this stuff away. Oh weelll.