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Old May 30, 2007 | 08:18 PM
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The car is below 11 starting @ 4000 rpm What the hell was thinking tuning the car like this.
They do that because they need to keep the catalyst alive for 100k miles.
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Old May 30, 2007 | 08:44 PM
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I just want clarification that the method that you outlined has nothing to do with the lean spool enable/disable. Correct. The intent of this method is to control the extremely rich AFR that the Evo 9 encounters past 7000 rpm. Is that correct?
If you set it to past 7600 then you make it so the car doesn't have the IPW dip at 7,000 rpm and go rich but you keep the lean spool active.

If you set it to 2500, you make the start/end rpm the same, basically turning off lean-spool.

Like I said, it's a quick and dirty way of doing it.
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Old May 30, 2007 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by nj1266


Is the LMA-3 required to get the LOAD logged into logworks?
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Old May 30, 2007 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
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If you set it to 2500, you make the start/end rpm the same, basically turning off lean-spool.

Like I said, it's a quick and dirty way of doing it.
There may be more to it than that too. Some of the lean spool parameter tables suggest that under certain load conditions, the lean spool program may be active and causing some change to the AFR even before the "lean spool start RPM".
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Old May 31, 2007 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
If you set it to past 7600 then you make it so the car doesn't have the IPW dip at 7,000 rpm and go rich
Did you mean IPW spike and go rich or IPW dip and go lean, or basically dip up in an upwards manner making more fuel go into engine?

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Old May 31, 2007 | 01:38 PM
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Sorry yes, IPW spike and go rich.
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Old May 31, 2007 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MalibuJack
I actually tell people this all the time. I have seen dozens of instances where guys with very little experience, get irate at tuners after they log their own cars some time after a tune, and see knock.

Its unavoidable to get some small amount of knock, large amounts that affect the tune are where you have to be really concerned.

But even getting 0 counts on the dyno, doesn't mean its knock free while driving, I think thats where the huge misconception came from.
this should be stickied somewhere, as there is too much commotion from ignorant folks.

congrats again on the ix nj!

Last edited by ST; May 31, 2007 at 05:22 PM.
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Old May 31, 2007 | 06:05 PM
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Why do you say that ST?
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Old May 31, 2007 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by lemmonhead
Why do you say that ST?
If you mean about a few knocks being unavoidable, its because its true. The Evo knock detection system is super sensitive and cannot be completely isolated from other things that generate noise that is detected by the knock sensors.

When I first started logging data and tuning about eight months ago, I was really upset if I got any knock counts. I eventually realized with a safe tune, a few stray knock counts is just noise. Nowadays, I start paying attention when I see consistent knock counts at a particular rpm or if I see a spike greater than 3.
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Old May 31, 2007 | 06:13 PM
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I reconfigured the knock counter in EvoScan to read 0-15 instead of 0-50 like it starts out. I am with you though Mrfred, 1-3 counts lets you know how close a particular combo is to "the edge".
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Old May 31, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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What about all the knock counts starting @ 6300 revs in that log? Is that normal?
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Old May 31, 2007 | 10:21 PM
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What about all the knock counts starting @ 6300 revs in that log? Is that normal?
That spike to a knocksum of 7 at 6300 rpm is knock. Looks like more timing than the the engine could handle on the CA 91.

Its those spikes where the knock sum goes from 0 to 5+ instantly that are indicators of real knock.
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Old Jun 1, 2007 | 05:54 AM
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OK, I didn't think so. Had to make sure I was on the same page, here. Thanks

Does anyone recommend using an "octane booster" aditive, if planning a trip to CA?
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Old Jun 1, 2007 | 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Mojo Rising
OK, I didn't think so. Had to make sure I was on the same page, here. Thanks

Does anyone recommend using an "octane booster" aditive, if planning a trip to CA?
Octane boost additive for trips to CA would be fine. Just make sure the booster actually works. Many of the brands have very little effect on octane.
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Old Jun 1, 2007 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by lapulapu
Is the LMA-3 required to get the LOAD logged into logworks?
No you do not, just the 2byte mod to the rom and the xml file and the formula calculation. Search the ecuflash forum it is somewhere in here recently discussed in the last few weeks.
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