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Old May 27, 2007 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Evo_Kid
Oh yeah, later IXs never really hit factory boost (20.3lbs~16lbs)
When I did my log humidity was @ 60%. I have discovered that high humidity lowers boost. One time I logged with 80-90% humidity and lost 1.5 psi of boost. I thought I had a boost leak. Then I logged the next day when humidity was in the 40s and regained the lost boost.

Had I been logging my 9 under sub 40% humidity, I would have logged the 20.xx stock boost.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 06:10 PM
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So I do this by changing the Boost Enhancement (Anti-Lag) Stop RPM from 4531 to 7800 rpm? What impact would that have on the AFR from 4531 rpm on? I suspect the AFR will become leaner. Correct?
A lil harder then that. You have to change the addresses of the maps, then change the settings.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by nj1266
So I do this by changing the Boost Enhancement (Anti-Lag) Stop RPM from 4531 to 7800 rpm? What impact would that have on the AFR from 4531 rpm on? I suspect the AFR will become leaner. Correct?
No, here is a quick and dirty way to add control of it, in ecuflash, right-click on the left column under Fuel and select "new map" and follow this screenshot:


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Old May 27, 2007 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by nj1266
So I do this by changing the Boost Enhancement (Anti-Lag) Stop RPM from 4531 to 7800 rpm? What impact would that have on the AFR from 4531 rpm on? I suspect the AFR will become leaner. Correct?
Read this post:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...57#post4364757

If you want to see lean spool start/stop values, go into your 88590015.xml file, and add these items:

<table name="Lean Spool Start RPM" address="1281"/>

<table name="Lean Spool Stop RPM" address="1285"/>


Then go into your evo9base.xml file, and add these items:

<table name="Lean Spool Start RPM" category="Turbo" type="1D" scaling="RPMStatLimit8"/>

<table name="Lean Spool Stop RPM" category="Turbo" type="1D" scaling="RPMStatLimit8"/>

There is another thread on lean spool that is worth reading:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=273119
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Old May 29, 2007 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Pretty normal. The stock 9 tapers so much up top and runs a bit rich, not as rich as 8's but rich.
I installed two bungs on my HFC. One for the stock narrow band at the tail of the HFC and one for the wideband on the mouth of the HFC. Today I logged the AFR. Boy is this car running rich stock. This is richer than my 8 was, but I only logged my 8 with a TBE. I never logged it stock. Here are the 4 logs averaged. I suspect that the knock that I was getting up top is due to running rich. You can knock when you run rich.



The car is below 11 starting @ 4000 rpm What the hell was thinking tuning the car like this.
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Old May 29, 2007 | 04:49 PM
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I've seen 8's run richer than that.
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Old May 29, 2007 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by nj1266
The car is below 11 starting @ 4000 rpm What the hell was thinking tuning the car like this.
They were thinking of a way to allow conumer joe to run 89 octane and use timing retard to control knock threashold. Totally impossible with a car tuned with a a powerful AFR and with even less than optimal timing. I bet Car is about 65% undertuned from factory

How in the hell did Razorlab figure that method of LS dis?
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Old May 29, 2007 | 09:44 PM
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The car is below 11 starting @ 4000 rpm What the hell was thinking tuning the car like this.
Does your wideband AFR data represent a completely stock ROM (no mods to lean spool, AFR map or anything else)?
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Old May 29, 2007 | 09:48 PM
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Does your wideband AFR data represent a completely stock ROM (no mods to lean spool, AFR map or anything else)?
Yes. I only have the 2byte load and JDM MAP sensor patch.
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Old May 29, 2007 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by nj1266
Yes. I only have the 2byte load and JDM MAP sensor patch.
Interesting. Seems that with lean spool enabled, the actual AFR runs about 1 point richer than the AFR in the fuel table. Would be interesting to see how close actual AFR is to the AFR table when lean spool is disabled.

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Old May 29, 2007 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
Interesting. Seems that with lean spool enabled, the actual AFR runs about 1 point richer than the AFR in the fuel table. I knew that lean spool leans out the AFR by about 1 point, but I wasn't sure how close actual AFR to the AFR in the table. Would be great if you got another log with lean spool disabled.
My before and after log files showed a little more than 1 point richer after where it steadily declined to nothing where it stopped at end of spool . For that log it was from 3500RPM to 4100 rpm . Not sure if it's RPM related or spool (VE, TPS, MAF open/closed loop) related, or both - for I changed the fuel map shortly after
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Old May 29, 2007 | 11:15 PM
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How in the hell did Razorlab figure that method of LS dis?
Say what?
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Old May 30, 2007 | 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Say what?
Yeah, that took me a few minutes too. He's wondering how you came up with that method to disable lean spool.
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Old May 30, 2007 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
Yeah, that took me a few minutes too. He's wondering how you came up with that method to disable lean spool.
I've seen it done like that some where else on here, because thats how I hard it at first on my ROM. Then I changed it to the way the how-to says to do.
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Old May 30, 2007 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
No, here is a quick and dirty way to add control of it, in ecuflash, right-click on the left column under Fuel and select "new map" and follow this screenshot:
I just want clarification that the method that you outlined has nothing to do with the lean spool enable/disable. Correct. The intent of this method is to control the extremely rich AFR that the Evo 9 encounters past 7000 rpm. Is that correct?
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