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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by TouringBubble
Not yet ... I honestly didn't know it existed. I'm going to look in the .xml to locate it. There are many idle values whose names are truncated in ECUFlash.
I think this will take care of it, I have mine set for 1,000.
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 07:55 AM
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Hmmm ... I don't think that table exists for my v.15 IX ROM. I'll take a second look, but that would have been obvious. It was mentioned that it might be truncated, but I think the stepper values are the truncated ones. Thanks for the info.
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 08:13 AM
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There's an adjustment screw on the TB that will need to be adjusted, if you want to change your idle speed. It's located on the back of the TB, facing the firewall. I believe you turn it clock wise to raise RPM's.
This isn't the way to adjust idle. This screw is meant to be used to set the "closed" position for the throttle butterfly. The ECU will try to compensate for any adjustments made with this screw.
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by mdsevo06
There's an adjustment screw on the TB that will need to be adjusted, if you want to change your idle speed. It's located on the back of the TB, facing the firewall. I believe you turn it clock wise to raise RPM's.
Please do not mess with the BISS screw on the evo's. It will cause more headaches than anything. The true way to set your idle is with the ECU.

On 8's, setting the idle is straightforward, you just set the Desired Idle RPM-Neutral and with AC on. You set it at what you want and it does it.

On the 9's, it seems to not take as well. Something I have been looking into for awhile. MrFred, maybe you can find additional tables for the 9's?
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by cfdfireman1
Did you change "Desired Idle RPM with AC on" in EcuFlash from your post it looks like you missed it.
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Dont mess with the screw.
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
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On the 9's, it seems to not take as well. Something I have been looking into for awhile. MrFred, maybe you can find additional tables for the 9's?
So its not there for the 9, eh. Odd. I'll take a look tonight.
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
So its not there for the 9, eh. Odd. I'll take a look tonight.
No the tables are there (Desired Idle RPM-Neutral/Drive), but it seems like the car doesn't take to the changes as the 8's do. You can set idle to 1000 rpm, it will do it for a second then drop down to 700-800 like you didn't change anything.

I am beginning to think either the defs are wrong or there is some other tables it's using as well.
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 01:20 PM
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Yay! So I'm not crazy ... There is no easy adjustment for idle w/ AC on on the IX ...

These are the idle tables on the v.15 ROM:

Code:
<table name="Desired ISCV intial step position with AC off-Neutral" address="3d24">
	<table name="Engine Temp" address="70c2" elements="8"/>
</table>

<table name="Desired ISCV intial step position with AC off-Drive" address="3d38">
	<table name="Engine Temp" address="70c2" elements="8"/>
</table>

<table name="Desired ISCV intial step position with AC on-Neutral" address="3d4c">
	<table name="Engine Temp" address="70c2" elements="8"/>
</table>

<table name="Desired Idle RPM-Neutral" address="3d60">
	<table name="Engine Temp" address="70c2" elements="8"/>
</table>

<table name="Desired Idle RPM-Drive" address="3d6e">
	<table name="Engine Temp" address="70c2" elements="8"/>
</table>
And here are my values in the same order as listed above:

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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 01:28 PM
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..funny there is STILL no way to adjust the idle speed on a IX through the ECU...sucks.
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TouringBubble
Yay! So I'm not crazy ... There is no easy adjustment for idle w/ AC on on the IX ...

These are the idle tables on the v.15 ROM:

Code:
<table name="Desired ISCV intial step position with AC off-Neutral" address="3d24">
    <table name="Engine Temp" address="70c2" elements="8"/>
</table>
 
<table name="Desired ISCV intial step position with AC off-Drive" address="3d38">
    <table name="Engine Temp" address="70c2" elements="8"/>
</table>
 
<table name="Desired ISCV intial step position with AC on-Neutral" address="3d4c">
    <table name="Engine Temp" address="70c2" elements="8"/>
</table>
 
<table name="Desired Idle RPM-Neutral" address="3d60">
    <table name="Engine Temp" address="70c2" elements="8"/>
</table>
 
<table name="Desired Idle RPM-Drive" address="3d6e">
    <table name="Engine Temp" address="70c2" elements="8"/>
</table>
And here are my values in the same order as listed above:

So you have tried to change values on the last two tables and found it works but re-adjusts it self to lower actual idle values very quickly ? Which values did you change? Just the neutral one correct? Im thinking the last table is for an automatic tranny version. The ISCV stepper values dont seem to make sense to me, the manual tranny should be less than the auto one, as it needs to open the throttle a bit to compensate for the increased load to drive the tranny in drive. But what is shown is they are actually less. At working temp the manual and auto show the same target idle of 852, but the stepper values although different arent what id expect. Unless i got it backwards.
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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sounds to me like you have a vaccume leak some where pop the hood listen for some hissing noises vaccume leaks cause major idle problems
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 08:50 PM
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the definitions are misleading..
neutral means stationary idle
drive means moving idle (ie coasting down at neutral gear)

when you change the idle values.. you DO need to adjust the BISS if the target idle and set idle is way off.. but rotate slowly every 1/4 turn and wait.. then check target idle with engine rpm.. do this until they are within 50 rpms.. its a pain..
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TouringBubble
Yay! So I'm not crazy ... There is no easy adjustment for idle w/ AC on on the IX ...

And here are my values in the same order as listed above:

Hey, are those values in your idle tables the stock values? I'm getting completely different RPM values. Really bizarre numbers.

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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 10:19 PM
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The values I posted are modified. I tried adjusting the values as mentioned in the first post. I think I'm with Mrfred on the drive table .. it's probably for the auto. I thought it was for rolling with the clutch in, but that really doesn't make as much sense.

Mrfred, the values you posted look like my stock values.
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by dsmjeffro
sounds to me like you have a vaccume leak some where pop the hood listen for some hissing noises vaccume leaks cause major idle problems
I don't think there is a leak.. My idle is fine. I just want to raise the idle RPM to reduce cabin vibration.
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