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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 08:54 PM
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Exclamation Brian Crower 280s and Mivec Map

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I just installed some BC 280s and the car was running like crap with the JDM MIVEC map.

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I ended up running the stock map and the car is responding as expected.

For those running any 280 duration cams on an Evo IX.... Do you mind posting your Mivec map?

Just curious if it is just the BCs or some other brands run bad on the JDM map!
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 11:11 PM
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define "running like crap"?
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 07:01 AM
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Running like crap (Ruh-ning lIk crah-p) n: 1. To move in such a way to exhibit characteristics of feces. 2. To idle as though a poop log was in the valve cover.

lol... couldn't resist.
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 07:20 AM
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lol..... Guys! It was 2 AM local time when I wrote the thread! Bear with me!

Meaning the car was not accelerating properly as if it was out off one tooth in the timing belt.

It was making a sound as if the car was loosing power the more advanced the intake cam was. Based on the logs on Evoscan!

After loading the OEM US VVT map found on the revision 15, the car responded as if the cam was on the right timing. Not sure if I am clear enough but basically, the same setup with the OEM map is running well now.

The car now accelerates normal and no longer stall under a sudden WOT press.

My goal is to find what VVT map people are running on 280s! And, if anyone else experienced the need to load OEM US Map because the car is not responding as expected with cams.

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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 01:04 PM
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lol..... Guys! It was 2 AM local time when I wrote the thread! Bear with me!

Meaning the car was not accelerating properly as if it was out off one tooth in the timing belt.

It was making a sound as if the car was loosing power the more advanced the intake cam was. Based on the logs on Evoscan!

After loading the OEM US VVT map found on the revision 15, the car responded as if the cam was on the right timing. Not sure if I am clear enough but basically, the same setup with the OEM map is running well now.

The car now accelerates normal and no longer stall under a sudden WOT press.

My goal is to find what VVT map people are running on 280s! And, if anyone else experienced the need to load OEM US Map because the car is not responding as expected with cams.

this happen to me but with the 272 cams exactly what you described

this was with someones esle tune, then i had kevind look at it and retuned my car it runs perfect, i dont know if it was the cams or what
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What load are you seeing at peak torque and at 7000 rpm?
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 01:37 PM
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What load are you seeing at peak torque and at 7000 rpm?
me or the other guy? i dont know i would have to ask kevin maybe he'll post later
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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asking the OP.
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I have not logged a full pull yet! But will post the info as soon as I get it!
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Originally Posted by honki24
Running like crap (Ruh-ning lIk crah-p) n: 1. To move in such a way to exhibit characteristics of feces. 2. To idle as though a poop log was in the valve cover.

lol... couldn't resist.
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 08:32 PM
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That was very funny! I am still laughing about it!

Originally Posted by honki24
Running like crap (Ruh-ning lIk crah-p) n: 1. To move in such a way to exhibit characteristics of feces. 2. To idle as though a poop log was in the valve cover.

lol... couldn't resist.
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 08:34 PM
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AFRs are a bit off (lean) and I have not completed a full 3rd gear pull.

I am revising the maps and will post a DLL graph!

Originally Posted by razorlab
What load are you seeing at peak torque and at 7000 rpm?
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 08:50 PM
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At Peak TQ, I am seeing 270 Load using the 2-byte mod.

At 7000 RPM, I am seeing 250!

BTW, I sold my S1s to a guy you are tuning his car! They should be there by Thursday!

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What load are you seeing at peak torque and at 7000 rpm?
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 03:46 AM
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Bump! For 280s owners showing some MIVEC maps!
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 01:17 PM
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Did these come with a cam card? If they did I can run it through my dyno sim software that I have been using since the dawn of time and see. If they are close to the VIII as I suspect they are (I am sure the exhaust is the same) the lobecenters are going to be pretty tight (low numbers in the 106* range...instead of 112*+ like they need to be). What boost are you seeing 270 load at peak torque and what RPM?
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