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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 08:20 PM
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Which Map do you guys need to help?

Well, my buddy Tamer at 4WS is real busy so just out of curiosity, which map do you guys need to help me understand on how to tune my ecu? My mods are: hallman mbc set at 24lbs, runs on 93 octane, 3" DP, cat delete, Works exhaust, HKS 264/272 camshaft and gears set at 0 deg, Injen Intake and DP, AEM wb and Walbro fuel pump.
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 08:30 PM
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i dont understand your question???
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 08:36 PM
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Sorry but I'm removing the image of the base map for the brotherly love of Tamer. Maybe someday when I try to help tune a friend's car, I can post it up....

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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 08:39 PM
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Here's the data for my first 3rd gear pull

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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 08:47 PM
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Here's my second 3rd gear pull after the first one.



Hopefully not too much pictures in here but I'm sure pictures and data makes it easier for a lot of people when it comes to trying to help solve a problem.

tephra - I heard a lot of great things about your knowledge. It's well respect in here. I appreciate you're trying to help. Anyways, my question was basically asking you which map is good to make change when it comes to tuning.
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 08:52 PM
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I would add a little more fuel it looks too lean at peak load. And maybe pull a degree or two from 4K to 6K if the fuel dont fix your knock issue.
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 10:52 PM
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Look at your knock @3812rpm - you need to add more fuel, 12+ AFR is too high.

First off - You are not logging boost - although its not 100% necessary its good.

Second - Richen up your fuel map from 3000rpm -> 6500rpm, loads 180-> 280.

Third - You really should rescale your load axis's to more than 260, as you are hitting loads of 280...

Take baby steps - fixing one thing at a time and then you will be fine.
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 11:59 PM
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Good lord 13 AFR at peak load

btw, if these are 4WS maps, he might not be so happy you are posting them...
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 03:45 AM
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Your load scales only go to 260, you should really get a rescale to 300 to give you more control in the high load cells, even though you are showing load calc rather bthan 2 byte load. And you're way lean for pump, you are on just pump fuel arn't you?

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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 03:49 AM
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Where is the wideband sensor installed?

I see these are still the basemaps without corrections based on your logs.

It means to me that Tamer did not even started to tune your car.

Finally I wonder what do you mean with "real busy"? He responds very fast and he explains a lot more than average.

And I also think you should not publish basemaps.

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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Good lord 13 AFR at peak load

btw, if these are 4WS maps, he might not be so happy you are posting them...
Just trying to learn something that's all. It's not that I don't respect Tamer. He's a real nice and busy guy these days. The map is a base cam map so he's still working on it since he's out of town and don't have his laptop with him. My main point of posting this is not to say that he's not doing his job or isn't good. I just want to learn how to tune it. I hope Tamer understand
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by tephra
Look at your knock @3812rpm - you need to add more fuel, 12+ AFR is too high.

First off - You are not logging boost - although its not 100% necessary its good.

Second - Richen up your fuel map from 3000rpm -> 6500rpm, loads 180-> 280.

Third - You really should rescale your load axis's to more than 260, as you are hitting loads of 280...

Take baby steps - fixing one thing at a time and then you will be fine.
I'm sure Tamer will rescale the load axis. I can't see boost as an option to log using evoscan. How do you richen the fuel map and by how much would you suggest if I were to do it? I'm not saying that I will but just for educating myself. Also if I were to rescale the load axis, which load should I remove? Is 280 load good enough or should I go up to 300?
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ghamatos
Where is the wideband sensor installed?

I see these are still the basemaps without corrections based on your logs.

It means to me that Tamer did not even started to tune your car.

Finally I wonder what do you mean with "real busy"? He responds very fast and he explains a lot more than average.

And I also think you should not publish basemaps.
If I can remember where I position the O2 sensor, it's at the 12 O'clock position. Is that wrong? Yeah, Tamer have not started to tune it yet. He just give me the base map and I did the two pulls of which I posted in here. What I mean by he's "real busy" is that he's just a like us. Have a job and doing another thing of which he loves on the side which keeps him up all the time. Anyways, for your last comment, I think I shouldn't but I didn't thought of that but like I said earlier, I hope he won't be upset at what I did. Hopefully he'll understand my reason behind this.

I'm not saying that he's a bad tuner. He's a great tuner and the reason I did this is because I want to learn a little about tuning. I know he'll be glad to teach me but I'm just a little shy to ask. But I ask him to help when it comes to installing and problem
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