You're joking right? After I launch my website www.Virtual-Dyno.com, you are using that name? Really? That does not please me. Lets see, you PM'd me with the goal of helping ME get a stand-alone version out there eon's ago and then basically never did anything with it (I know you had school and were busy and stuff) so I disregarded your efforts even though I already gave you full access to any work I had already done. Well, do what you want with it I guess.

 

very nice, good job!

 

Looking forward to your release JOT, site looks clean, so far!

 

He with the better tool will prevail. But since it seems he used a lot of your work and effort to get his program off the ground, I don't see why you couldn't take any of his ideas to make your spreadsheet better.

Regardless, I think competition makes things better, and thanks to both of you for your hard work to help support the community, especially since you are not charging for your great programs

If I ever make it home from work to drive my evo, I'll be sure to donate some much needed funds to whichever program I like best, or hell, I might even donate to both in the spirit of giving since I know how much time it takes to get something like this off the ground.

 

Thanks, it takes endless hours to make one of these,Brad and I can both attest. I've been doing it twice as long as he has too. I couldnt even make a good guess, but I would venture around 1000 hours invested for me. I look forward to launch of my stand-alone version. It keeps on getting better every day

 

+1

Me too

 

+2

and

Me 3

 

yea i agree just like mitsulogger n evoscan its all about variety.
i cant wait for the vdr release JOT!!!

 

thanks to you so many of us have learned the ins and outs about our evos
no matter who releases what, you ARE the one that started this great trend and taught us everything.

thank you for doing it and for the love of god dont you dare stop!

 

The only difference is that on person built the original and someone else "lifted" the work. I don't want to use steal since it was given freely.

 

The FULL version of v6.00 should have the following:

• Full Stand-Alone Software (no need to have Excel or OpenOffice to run on any PC)
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• Can be used with ANY vehicle! The user can add their own vehicle to the database.
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• The built-in Vehicle Library will automatically update as the Vehicle Library expands on the websites database so you always have the most current/accurate vehicle library we have compiled at any time.
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• Built-in Tutorials on how to calculate your Vehicles Frontal Area and Drag Coefficient if that information isn't available by any public resource.
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• You can select your datalog file by pointing and clicking (no more copy/pasting with Excel)
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• The ability to compare 2 datalogs on the graph simultaneously (more than 2 is just clutter and overkill IMO)
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• Full support of Evoscan,DSMlink,AEM EMS,Zeitronix and other Tuning software datalog files
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• Can view HP,TQ, AFR,Timing and BOOST all at once if the user chooses
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• TPS Trim option (user can choose to have the software only look at the WOT portion of the datalog)
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• New HP,TQ calculations are more accurate than ever before (totally different and better than v5.71!)
• Improved HP,TQ calculations use EVERY line of data for increased accuracy as well.
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• Dyno simulations compiled from a HUGE database of information from MANY Dynos across the U.S.
  (I've been compiling data for over a year now and I still want MORE! lol)
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• Easier, more accurate graph smoothing. Greater smoothing range to accommodate even the largest common datalogs. You won't max out the smoothing range before your log has been fully smoothed.
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• Can instantly capture and save .jpeg image of the dyno graph at the click of a button (some forums cannot view anything but .jpeg file uploads or links)
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• Image snapshot shows all vehicle information,dyno simulation settings and weather correction values so people don't need to post up all of that information when they post up a snapshot of their dyno graph.
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• All pertinent adjustments at your fingertips and all important vehicle data viewable on the screen at all times
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• No longer need to RPM TRIM the end of your run for anomalies!!!!!!
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• No shows Corrected and UNcorrected HP,TQ values when weather correction is used.
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• Currently working on improving the Weather Correction formulas even more to better reflect the specific SAE standard the Dyno's use.
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• Plus...it looks cool,lol

There is more that I am forgetting too,lol.

Also, users will get the new 1/4 Mile POWER Analysis Add-on App and the Acceleration Add-on app after v6.00 is released as well.

The 1/4 Mile POWER App:

The user can select their 1/4 Mile datalog from the track, enter their vehicle info, 1/4 Mile time and your trap speed. The analyzer trims the log file to only show power from the time you launch til the time you cross the beams. It will show a HP power curve throughout the entire run so you can see what is going on throughout all 4 gears and also see where you are losing power potential between shift points.

The analyzer also compiles an average HP value throughout the entire run to see how much power was sustained throughout the run. This can be useful to see where improvements may be made in your shifting methods,RPM shift points and also where power may be lacking in a particular gear. Just another tool that may be handy for some of you. There will also be a 0-60MPH and 0-100MPH feature as well.

The Acceleration App:

The user can see how their tuning adjustments improved/hindered their acceleration from certain MPH ranges (30-50MPH,40-70MPH,etc) and the MPH points can be completely user defined.

There will also be a 0-60MPH feature on this App as well.

Users can opt to add these add-on App's only if they choose to do so since some may have no need for them.

As you can see, V6.00 has a lot going on compared to v5.71 since I rebuilt it from the ground up this time around. I would like to have the most versatile Tuner Toolbox out there for us to use. If there is anything these programs currently don't offer that you feel would be a useful tuning tool, please let me know and I will see if its feasible to add in the future. Thanks everyone for the support since the beginning!

 

^ holy crap
and when is it coming out, you keep teasing us on this!

 

Look I had no idea you had that website posted. I have not be idle on this project and you know it. I have kept you in the loop the whole time. I have sent you screenshots of the application from start to finish and given you access to the beta when I was testing it. You were all about it till just now ... If I pee'd in your cherrios I surely didnt mean to. Your tool is a great tool and has been for a while. I applaud your ability to write something like it in excel. I just wanted to get a similar version that didnt require excel out there. Its still free, its not like I am charging for it. Heck I didnt even have a donate button in it till someone requested it. Look Id rather work together for the bettering (if thats a word) of our community here than to bicker about something that doesnt matter. I just saw a need to improve on something and it only helps all of us out.

 

Ohh and give me a freaking break about "lifting" anyones work. I did look at how he was calculating Base HP but when I noticed there was a mathmatical error by comparing it to many other formulas online and debugging his application to find out where the error was (which I didnt have to do), I used my own work. I also notified Jack of the error and was nice enough to tell him it was with his base HP numbers. Jack has since asked me many times about how I was doing my smoothing and it is done differently than his. I guess no matter how nice you are and how much you try to help the community ... there will always be the ones that are ungrateful. I for one have to agree with the ones that have stated they like variety, and to each his own. If you like Jacks better then by all means use it. If you prefer mine ... cool. I never thought variety was a bad thing ... I always supported capitalism (except in capitalism there is money involved, we both havent made a dime). I know Jack has put in a lot of time into his Excel spreadsheet, and I have put a lot of time in my application as well. I applaud him for what his has started.

 

What peeves me is THE NAME. At least create a little distance between our products if you don't mind. Its like me starting my own evo forum and calling it EvolutionN.net. OUR products will be very different in the end so users can opt for either. I apologize for any instant anger towards your launch but the name was just too much for me and blew my top on that one. How long have you been working on the stand-alone now? With the aid of eXtreme-Speed helping me get rolling with Visual Basic (can't thank him enough), we'll have a stand-alone version done from start to finish in 2 weeks time and it looks like my product,which I like. I didn't want it to look like some generic sterile environment since my creative side would hate me for it,lol.

You never really told me anything about your smoothing techniques except "I'm basically doing the same thing you are doing" for the most part. So....I pulled a Steve Jobs move, started over and made it better

In the end, there will simply be 2 products available to the masses and both will have their strengths and weakness' (though I am trying to have none obviously,lol). My apologies for the initial response and I hope your App gets the little bugs out of it soon enough. After seeing a half a days posts drawing a line between people choosing between two apps, it already got silly and I dont want people to choose 'sides'. I got into it to offer a REALLY handy tuning tool to the masses and Brad had the ability to take my work to a stand-alone level that I simply didn't know how to create at the time.

The one thing I love about the Evo community is the overabundance of smart people and I love that! It will only be a matter of time before people take it one step further.

I already have a VDR iPhone app in the works with the help of a few friends in high places. Plug in your iphone/ipod touch into a car charger port and record a log. BAM,there is your results. The smart guys know how I can get all of the data I need from that scenerio, the less geeky people probably dont care how it'll work, just that is will work haha. Its on hold until v6.00 gets finalized though.