Originally Posted by hellcat

I prefer AEM for ease of installation and also it is easy to use. Zeitronix is also a nice unit. It has a wider range of measure and also has more features, the bad side is having to calibrate it all of the time and they also seem buggy and some people have had issues with them holding callibration.

Originally Posted by 211ratsbud

This thread implies that somone would have had to use all on the list? Ive only used AEM on my evo, which I think works well, never once had a problem in any circumstance. I think the poll should read which one do you use!

Originally Posted by MINES13

I explained MTS packets previously, this eluded you. The sample rate is 1000 samples per second. This is what you will see through your DAC output. Maybe you missed this previously, giving you the benefit of the doubt here. But I will say it again.

You've explained it 5 times. Yes, I know they say it logs that fast. But in the real world, I have yet to see that. The LC1 and LM1 I have used before never logged that fast IMO. Using Logworks (Innovates own logging software), it seem like the sample rate is much lower.

No, it does not. Zeitronix and pretty much every other company, except Innovate, use the Bosch CJ125 sensor control chip. This uses the FIXED calibration resistor on the LSU4.2 sensor. There is no debate here. The device does not do this, you are either confused or making things up. From what I have seen, I would believe either to be the case.

Okay. So I guess the owner of Zeitronix is lying to me.

I believe, that you believe this. Which I guess is all that matters on the internet.

Really? 50 to 60%? I guess you have Innovate's annual sales figures, but I doubt it. Failure rates like that over a period of 8 years + would certainly put any other company out of business. They must be touched by the hand of god... But again, judging by some of your previous misinformation, you are either seriously confused or once again, making stuff up. I would believe either/or at this point.

So now your calling me a liar??? Im not confused or making anything up. I have been in the import industry for about 11 years, and though my 11 years, I have witness that Innovate units have issues about 50% of the time. No, that doesnt mean the company would go out of business, because they make a good margin on their product and they do have great customer support, to take care of the issues.

Amazing. Just to make you aware, any electronic device period is made with components that are NOT made in the USA. capacitors, resistors, non volatile memory, etc. All Chinese, British, Israeli, Japanese, etc. Maybe you are referring to final assembly here in the USA? So is the Innovate product, not that it matters.

True. All caps, resistors, etc are made overseas. Yes, Im referrin to the final assembly. AFAIK, Innovate products are also assembled overseas. Zeitronix is NOT.

At this point, I will leave you be. You are a business, have a vested interest in the Zeitronix devices as a dealer, and I am sure you do what you do well. That is great, and I wish you no ill will. We are not going to see eye to eye on this, and this is also ok. I like my Innovate, you like your Zeitronix. There are others on here who may prefer neither of these products, competition is healthy. At the end of the day, use what you like and be happy.

Yes, Im a business, but my business is about 70% tuning, about 25% installs/labor and about 5% parts sells, so part sells arent a big deal to me. And I do sell BOTH, Innovate and Zetronix products, as well as AEM products, so Im a dealer of all 3 and have a vested interest in all of them.

Originally Posted by hellcat

I prefer AEM for ease of installation and also it is easy to use. Zeitronix is also a nice unit. It has a wider range of measure and also has more features, the bad side is having to calibrate it all of the time and they also seem buggy and some people have had issues with them holding callibration.