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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 09:58 AM
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Bryan / Richard, I noticed the "SST Clutch Pressure Ramp Up - Adjust Offset 2D" and the "SST Torque Limit Reduction Table by RPM (CPRU_A)" tables reference the same address.

Is this duplication an error or intentional?

It is an error (duplicate), I missed that one while cleaning up the XML.
Old Mar 28, 2012 | 06:24 AM
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I'd like to know if there is any chance to select S-Sport mode without stop the car...
Thanks for your work guys.
Old Mar 28, 2012 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Magnumpsi
I am working on a X MR today with the new Dodson clutches. I am testing some stuff today.

Will report back with some findings.

Mitch M
Would be great to hear back on what tweaks you found helped the car respond better off the line compared to our experiences as well as benefits of holding more power on the dyno pulls.
Old Mar 28, 2012 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Fede
I'd like to know if there is any chance to select S-Sport mode without stop the car...
Thanks for your work guys.
I think the ECU just gets told what mode it's in... as opposed to deciding for itself.

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Old Mar 28, 2012 | 09:37 AM
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I think the ECU just gets told what mode it's in... as opposed to deciding for itself.

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Thx!
Old Mar 28, 2012 | 10:21 AM
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So does anybody want to give some feedback after using these new tables?

I'd hate for people to come in, take the tables and run. That was not what giving these tables to the public was about.
Thanks for all the hard work put into finding these table.

Only had the chance to check the up-shift ignition response on an 2010 (55580006) and it didn't seem to drop to the lower limit table.

A few days earlier, on a 2012 RA I saw the ignition drop down to a lower value during up-shift.
Old Mar 28, 2012 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Airboy
Thanks for all the hard work put into finding these table.

Only had the chance to check the up-shift ignition response on an 2010 (55580006) and it didn't seem to drop to the lower limit table.

A few days earlier, on a 2012 RA I saw the ignition drop down to a lower value during up-shift.
Are you talking about the Lower Bound Ignition Table? Also what SST mode where you in on the 55580006 Evo MR?
Old Mar 29, 2012 | 11:24 AM
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Are you talking about the Lower Bound Ignition Table? Also what SST mode where you in on the 55580006 Evo MR?
Yes, the Lower Bound Ignition Table that shows up in the SST section. I tested it in S-Sport mode.
Old Mar 29, 2012 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Airboy
Yes, the Lower Bound Ignition Table that shows up in the SST section. I tested it in S-Sport mode.
That's odd, it works for me in S-Sport, at least on 08's as far as I can remember. Try it in Sport and Normal and see if you see anything different?
Old Mar 29, 2012 | 01:50 PM
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IIRC there have been a couple times where my shift timing is the LBIT less the Timing Reduction vs RPM. I could not find any rhyme or reason for it tho.... possibly due to a slight lift when shifting(real or recorded, who knows). It's been a while since I looked into that, so I'm not 100%.
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Little update from my personal car, a 2010 RA Sportback w/BBX Lite on E85, making approx. 400whp on a low reading mustang dyno.

I've been having rev hang issues on shifts for more then a year, ever since the car started making real power. It's been frustrating and i've tried so many things with no difference it's driven me crazy and I basically gave up for awhile.

Recently (about two weeks ago) I zeroed out the "SST Torque Reduction On Exceedance" table. I already had the "SST Throttle Requested Torque Subtractor Map" table zeroed out.

I haven't done a ton of testing with this, just my normal 2 mile drive to and from work every day but it feels like the rev hang is basically gone with about 1/2 to 3/4 throttle shifting now. It used to be if I was making a spirited left turn (from say a left turn lane) and got on the gas and tried to shift to 2nd gear the revs would just hang until I let off the throttle. Now the gear *snicks* in just like it should. I'm pretty happy.

I'll have to try some WOT shifts but I just haven't had the road nor has the car been warm enough in my daily commute to do so. I'll try to do some WOT testing soon.
Old Mar 29, 2012 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Little update from my personal car, a 2010 RA Sportback w/BBX Lite on E85, making approx. 400whp on a low reading mustang dyno.

I've been having rev hang issues on shifts for more then a year, ever since the car started making real power. It's been frustrating and i've tried so many things with no difference it's driven me crazy and I basically gave up for awhile.

Recently (about two weeks ago) I zeroed out the "SST Torque Reduction On Exceedance" table. I already had the "SST Throttle Requested Torque Subtractor Map" table zeroed out.

I haven't done a ton of testing with this, just my normal 2 mile drive to and from work every day but it feels like the rev hang is basically gone with about 1/2 to 3/4 throttle shifting now. It used to be if I was making a spirited left turn (from say a left turn lane) and got on the gas and tried to shift to 2nd gear the revs would just hang until I let off the throttle. Now the gear *snicks* in just like it should. I'm pretty happy.

I'll have to try some WOT shifts but I just haven't had the road nor has the car been warm enough in my daily commute to do so. I'll try to do some WOT testing soon.
Stop being silly

j/k

great numbers for a low reading dyno
Old Apr 3, 2012 | 04:54 AM
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May I ask what is the different between these 2 logging parameters?

Code:
<DataListItem DataLog="Y" Color="" Display="EngineTorque" LogReference="EngineTorque" RequestID="238094A2" Eval="x" Unit="Nm" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="2" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="255" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="255" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="seems to cap at 485nm" Priority="1" Visible="False" />

<DataListItem DataLog="Y" Color="" Display="EngineTQTransmitted" LogReference="EngineTQTransmitted" RequestID="238096CC" Eval="x" Unit="Nm" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="2" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="255" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="255" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" />
Can I log them to see if I have exceeded the values in the Torque Limit #1-#4 tables?
Old Apr 12, 2012 | 02:54 PM
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Razorlab,

I've been experiencing some similar rev hang, but it seems only at WOT, and mostly 1st gear. Now this will almost always happen in normal mode when getting on it. But rarely in sport.. Recently at the drag strip, I noticed while in Sport auto, that the first gear would Rev all the way out to 7500 and take longer than normal to shift.
Is this normal for this to happen?

And if by "zeroing" the "SST Torque Reduction On Exceedance" table" could this possibly shorten the time it takes to shift, and more or less snap it into second gear??

I would like to play around with this and find what works.. Got some testing to do, but nervous to touch the tables..


On another note, I know someone that just tuned a X MR and I believe he used some of these tables to get the torque up around the 370 range.. I will find out what exactly he did and report some results of the testing, being the nature of this thread.
Old Apr 12, 2012 | 02:59 PM
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The 1st gear shift limit on the RA still eludes me. The more power you make the worse it gets.

I have found that limiting boost in 1st using the boost tables and even using the 1st gear TPS table to start reducing throttle towards the higher RPM helps with this.

It's faster for the car to actually shift well into 2nd then to run full power in 1st and not have it shift.



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