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Old Apr 5, 2013 | 06:38 AM
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How many of you knock value, WOT in more than 180 load

*I boost the value of 25 psi, I knock occurred in 6500 to around 5 knock value when the speed is 192 yards, Speedway driving because of the high temperature and high load knock value more, and from 5000 rpm start, up to 12.
Ask you, safety knock lock in less than three or six?
The following is the table of the air-fuel ratio and ignition Figure horsepower figure, I modified their part?
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Old Apr 5, 2013 | 06:56 AM
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edit. just noticed the datalog. will look and reply again.
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Old Apr 5, 2013 | 07:01 AM
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what fuel are you using?
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Old Apr 5, 2013 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by momostallion
edit. just noticed the datalog. will look and reply again.
Thank you!This is my other post on the inside said a more detailed.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ec...ash-china.html
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Old Apr 5, 2013 | 07:13 AM
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what fuel are you using?
I was here 97 fuel.But the quality is poor, I do not know that consistent and that a fuel.When he was 91.
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Old Apr 5, 2013 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by momostallion
edit. just noticed the datalog. will look and reply again.
I am sorry, because I'm using Google translator.Translation is not quite correct.
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Old Apr 5, 2013 | 11:02 AM
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i will try to use small words so google translate works better. i looked at your attached datalog.

#1. you do not have wideband oxygen sensor data. air fuel data is necessary to help.
#2. i can not convert your boost from mBAR to PSI correctly

you have too much ignition timing. if china 97 octane fuel is similar to usa 91 octane, 19 degrees is too much timing.

at 6500 rpm and 210 load, 18 and 19 degrees is too much. decrease it.

in fact, your timing through the range is too high. 14 degrees timing at 4000 rpm, 200 load is way too much in my opinion.


i would suggest reducing timing. i would also suggest looking at base maps from gunzo for 91 octane and reference the timing map.

either that or pay for an e-tune.
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Old Apr 6, 2013 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by momostallion
i will try to use small words so google translate works better. i looked at your attached datalog.

#1. you do not have wideband oxygen sensor data. air fuel data is necessary to help.
#2. i can not convert your boost from mBAR to PSI correctly

you have too much ignition timing. if china 97 octane fuel is similar to usa 91 octane, 19 degrees is too much timing.

at 6500 rpm and 210 load, 18 and 19 degrees is too much. decrease it.

in fact, your timing through the range is too high. 14 degrees timing at 4000 rpm, 200 load is way too much in my opinion.


i would suggest reducing timing. i would also suggest looking at base maps from gunzo for 91 octane and reference the timing map.

either that or pay for an e-tune.
Thank you for your help!But I did not find the gunzo ignition timing map.You can send a look at it?
My AFR value is partial concentration or partial thin? I need to modify them?
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Old Apr 7, 2013 | 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by momostallion
i will try to use small words so google translate works better. I looked at your attached datalog.

#1. You do not have wideband oxygen sensor data. Air fuel data is necessary to help.
#2. I can not convert your boost from mbar to psi correctly

you have too much ignition timing. If china 97 octane fuel is similar to usa 91 octane, 19 degrees is too much timing.

At 6500 rpm and 210 load, 18 and 19 degrees is too much. Decrease it.

In fact, your timing through the range is too high. 14 degrees timing at 4000 rpm, 200 load is way too much in my opinion.


I would suggest reducing timing. I would also suggest looking at base maps from gunzo for 91 octane and reference the timing map.

Either that or pay for an e-tune.
1psi=6.89kpa 1psi=0.0689bar 100kpa=1bar
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Old Apr 7, 2013 | 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by wenjie1812
Thank you for your help!But I did not find the gunzo ignition timing map.You can send a look at it?
http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22385


Originally Posted by wenjie1812
My AFR value is partial concentration or partial thin? I need to modify them?
i can not answer this. your AFR values appear to be AFR MAP numbers... AFR MAP numbers do not equal REAL air fuel ratio. only a wideband oxygen sensor can tell you that and i did not see wideband AFR values in your datalog.
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Old Apr 7, 2013 | 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by momostallion
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i can not answer this. your AFR values appear to be AFR MAP numbers... AFR MAP numbers do not equal REAL air fuel ratio. only a wideband oxygen sensor can tell you that and i did not see wideband AFR values in your datalog.
I do not have the LC-1 Wideband Oxygen Sensor.I tuned cars are data of EVOSCAN.
The city where I do not have 4-wheel drive dynamometer.
Do you use MSN?I think we can communicate with MSN.What is your MSN user name?I added you as a friend.
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Old Apr 7, 2013 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by wenjie1812
I do not have the LC-1 Wideband Oxygen Sensor.I tuned cars are data of EVOSCAN.
The city where I do not have 4-wheel drive dynamometer.
Do you use MSN?I think we can communicate with MSN.What is your MSN user name?I added you as a friend.
i do not have msn.
you do not need a dynamometer.

you do not have a wideband oxygen sensor? if you do not, you CANNOT tune your car.

#1. you need a human translator.
#2. you need a wideband o2 sensor.
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