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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 11:09 AM
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yea true if he wants to be that test mule...

i was just wondering why not go with some supporting mods first(atleast cams). I wouldnt be happy spending thatmuch to have 320hp on a MD.
Why does it matter which mod path he takes if the end result will be the same? Granted I would recommend doing at least the TBE before the BBK. However when it comes to bbk vs cams as far as mod path I don't see it really mattering which one he does first when he plans to have both of them done in the end. Just my 2 cents.
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by spooln2004
I am getting the kelford 272 cams and do the 60k then I will be done
Kelfords are killer and will really open that turbo up. You wont be dissapointed!
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by YoungMoolah
seems like a waste of $1700....


why would you just jump to the turbo without supporting mods first?

OK ,

My mods CBRD FMIC,LICP,Megan 02 housing,Perrin TBE,perrin hfc,Perrin intake man,780 injectors,walbro 255, Hallman Pro MBC,and the bbk full.

The exhaust i had on the car during the tune was a Greddy 3 inch bat back. I found out that the exhaust had tapered down right after the can for about 8 inches the when to 3 inch. Then at the muffler it when down to 2 1/2 again. So it was not a true 3 inch exhaust. Now i have a true 3 inch TBE. Even with the crappy exhaust I hardly call that a turbo without supporting mods.

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I will be doing the Kelford 272 cams, APR studs next year when I do the 60K service. I did not want to do the cams and the 60K now with only having 52k on the car.

I would like to be around 400 whp with my car I think i will be around that with the cams and tune on 26 psi. I was NOT wanting 500+ whp car. The turbo and mods made my car a heck of allot faster after CBRD had my car. Props to the team at CBRD

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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 05:29 PM
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Don't worry about that guy he was talking crap in another bbk results thread. You should def be able to get around 400 with the rest of what you are planning and I think 400 on pump on CBRD's dyno is a pretty good accomplishment. Also 400 whp with BBK spool makes for an awesome ride.
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 05:35 PM
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We just did 424whp on a DJ at 26psi with S1s and 880s. This turbo will flat out scream with more cam and a Magnus intake.
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by spooln2004
OK ,

My mods CBRD FMIC,LICP,Megan 02 housing,Perrin TBE,perrin hfc,Perrin intake man,780 injectors,walbro 255, Hallman Pro MBC,and the bbk full.

The exhaust i had on the car during the tune was a Greddy 3 inch bat back. I found out that the exhaust had tapered down right after the can for about 8 inches the when to 3 inch. Then at the muffler it when down to 2 1/2 again. So it was not a true 3 inch exhaust. Now i have a true 3 inch TBE. Even with the crappy exhaust I hardly call that a turbo without supporting mods.

Cams,
I will be doing the Kelford 272 cams, APR studs next year when I do the 60K service. I did not want to do the cams and the 60K now with only having 52k on the car.

I would like to be around 400 whp with my car I think i will be around that with the cams and tune on 26 psi. I was NOT wanting 500+ whp car. The turbo and mods made my car a heck of allot faster after CBRD had my car. Props to the team at CBRD


Ok like you said you do have all the supporting mods...then it must be the turbo...either way your numbers suck...i mean im not trying to argue but can you honestly say your happy with your numbers?

like i said I'm not trying to argue, Im just saying I would be dissapointed after spending that much money
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BluByYouEvoVIII
Why does it matter which mod path he takes if the end result will be the same? Granted I would recommend doing at least the TBE before the BBK. However when it comes to bbk vs cams as far as mod path I don't see it really mattering which one he does first when he plans to have both of them done in the end. Just my 2 cents.

And of course you jump in here with a big CBRD in your sig. All i said was that Id be dissapointed with those results.
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 04:03 AM
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ok you made your point and your opinion.....moving on! Bump for vids on street
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by YoungMoolah
And of course you jump in here with a big CBRD in your sig. All i said was that Id be dissapointed with those results.
It's not the turbo. This particular car has no mivec, is missing a real TBE, and has no cams. You may want to reserve judgment till the cams and larger exhaust go on. If he had done cams first you would have still thought it was a waste of $1700. Not to mention the CBRD dyno is notorious for being a "heartbreaker".

BTW: what does 387@315 mean?
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 05:25 AM
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thats some good numbers with the mods you have, and its on a mustang dyno.

good job.

cant go wrong with CBRD, heardd great things.

and YoungMoolah wtf does 387@315 mean, im curious to see how your making almost 400whp with exhaust cams and intake

if anyone here is talking about bullsh!t numbers its you

you obviously dont no the first thing about making power since CBRD already explained what the problem was, and its on a MUSTANG DYNO, its going to produce lower numbers then a dyno Jet.

there good numbers for what he has.

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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by evodom
thats some good numbers with the mods you have, and its on a mustang dyno.

Good job.

Cant go wrong with cbrd, heardd great things.

And youngmoolah wtf does 387@315 mean, im curious to see how your making almost 400whp with exhaust cams and intake

If anyone here is talking about bullsh!t numbers its you

you obviously dont no the first thing about making power since cbrd already explained what the problem was, and its on a mustang dyno, its going to produce lower numbers then a dyno jet.

There good numbers for what he has.
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 06:07 AM
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I understand that this turbo has a very fast spool, the power hits hard and fast. Ill admit I was going to buy this turbo, but then I drove my buddies GT35r evo and that didn't spool that well, so I bought an HTA35r with .63 a/r. I'm gonna see how that performs before moving to a twinscroll.

There's just nothing like a 35r, maybe cbrd could make an alternative compressor wheel for the 35r that would be awesome
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Hikaru

BTW: what does 387@315 mean?
He must have a 12 liter diesel.

Originally Posted by Davethewave
I understand that this turbo has a very fast spool, the power hits hard and fast. Ill admit I was going to buy this turbo, but then I drove my buddies GT35r evo and that didn't spool that well, so I bought an HTA35r with .63 a/r. I'm gonna see how that performs before moving to a twinscroll.

There's just nothing like a 35r, maybe cbrd could make an alternative compressor wheel for the 35r that would be awesome
take that dead link out of your sig. you got my hopes up for a 9 bov.
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 08:20 AM
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why dont you look in the BBK results thread. In fact isnt there employees car on stock cams evo IX@29psi(for god knows what reason) still did 370ish.

Look at every VIII in there they still did decent numbers on CBRD's "heartbreaker" dyno. You guys know his numbers suck. The only ones wanting to argue are the ones with the big CBRD in there sig. Im not trien to argue or bash Im just saying its kind of embarrasing.
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Davethewave
I understand that this turbo has a very fast spool, the power hits hard and fast. Ill admit I was going to buy this turbo, but then I drove my buddies GT35r evo and that didn't spool that well, so I bought an HTA35r with .63 a/r. I'm gonna see how that performs before moving to a twinscroll.

There's just nothing like a 35r, maybe cbrd could make an alternative compressor wheel for the 35r that would be awesome
You won't ever be able to make a 35r spool anywhere near as fast as the BBK. And it goes without saying the BBK won't make the power of a 35r. But that's not the point of it. The BBK is for people that want super quick spool, fast transient response, and will run mostly pump gas. It's a street turbo period. This turbo isn't supposed to make insane power.
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