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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 09:30 AM
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"Has been said to leak" but has that been confirmed by anyone you know of? I'll look into both the stock IX and APS twin-vent BOVs. I'm glad that you fellahs taught me a thing or two as no detail should be overlooked.
there is a thread out there where someone tested multiple bov against a stock one and all of the aftermarket ones made more power with no tuning just because they were holding boost. i dont remember the specifics but i will look for the thread and post a link if i can find it.

caleb is right on the money and he should be it cbrd's core. it is the same core in the buschur race intercooler just with cbrd endtanks and outlets. its nice being able to use any intercooler pipping you want especially if you are just replacing anbother companies intercooler as i did. simple install and plays well with other companies parts and stock parts, oh did i mention a 29whp/19wtq gain over ets 3.5 core!

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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by pure_evo
Does a BOV really make that much of a difference? I know it's a newbie question but I was under the impression that an upgraded BOV is an upgraded BOV. If that is not the case and I currently run the Forge RS BOV, what would you fellahs recommend me upgrading to and why?




Scheides, you and I have exchanged emails over the past week. Remember Levar the guy in Iraq? Well, I've never heard of this type of tuning as I'm currently ECU-tuned by KevinD. For the map sensor, I've strongly considered the GM MAF/translator set up. Can you shed more light on what you are talking about above and does my GM MAF plans suffice?
All BOV's are not created equal. There's tons of threads on this, search for Mellon's review of the twin-vent and also search for 'forge' and 'buck' or 'stutter' ....the stock IX one holds boost if you crush it a bit, its the only valve I recommend and I run one personally.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ec...t-control.html

Feel free to PM me so we don't go too far OT
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by scheides
All BOV's are not created equal. There's tons of threads on this, search for Mellon's review of the twin-vent and also search for 'forge' and 'buck' or 'stutter' ....the stock IX one holds boost if you crush it a bit, its the only valve I recommend and I run one personally.
true story, just because a company offers "upgrades" that doesn't mean it's not a big shiny pile of dung

I'm still loving my APS twin vent, it's seen 40psi numerous times and also works great for daily driving duty, hard to beat.
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by CBRD_Caleb
The BR Race and our intercooler use the same exact core... the tanks, inlets/outlets, and brackets are the difference. Ours requires no crash beam trimming, and both the inlet and outlet are in the stock location, so any IC piping that fits in the stock location will work. Both are fantastic pieces.
I had absolutely no idea this was/is the case as I've gone back and forth about both the BR race and deluxe and the concern that I have was not being a fan of having to trim parts of the car. I will get the CBRD FMIC without question based on this fact alone not to mention the stated whp/wtq gains by Jeff. Is it possible to have it annodized black? Now for a price please...

Originally Posted by atkins
there is a thread out there where someone tested multiple bov against a stock one and all of the aftermarket ones made more power with no tuning just because they were holding boost. i dont remember the specifics but i will look for the thread and post a link if i can find it.

Chris and Jeff, yes I understand about the BOV concern and I really appreciate the responses. I'm leaning towards the APS twin vent but if I found a used stock IX floating around in the "for sale" threads I'll gladly take it as a suitable substitute. The whole "crushing" aspect still escapes me as to how to do it properly.
Originally Posted by Mellon Tuning
true story, just because a company offers "upgrades" that doesn't mean it's not a big shiny pile of dung I'm still loving my APS twin vent, it's seen 40psi numerous times and also works great for daily driving duty, hard to beat.
I currently have the Injen UICP and LICP and I have been told that the Injen LICP doesn't make as much power as some other LICPs on the market. Which LICP do you fellahs recommend I go with? I was looking at the ETS LP2. Also, for my Injen UICP, I should simply leave it alone as replacing an aftermarket UICP with another aftermarket UICP hasn't been shown to be a great benefit, right?

I cannot tell you fellahs how much I appreciate the feedback all the way from Iraq and I cannot wait to get home.
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 03:10 AM
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I had absolutely no idea this was/is the case as I've gone back and forth about both the BR race and deluxe and the concern that I have was not being a fan of having to trim parts of the car. I will get the CBRD FMIC without question based on this fact alone not to mention the stated whp/wtq gains by Jeff. Is it possible to have it annodized black? Now for a price please...

Chris and Jeff, yes I understand about the BOV concern and I really appreciate the responses. I'm leaning towards the APS twin vent but if I found a used stock IX floating around in the "for sale" threads I'll gladly take it as a suitable substitute. The whole "crushing" aspect still escapes me as to how to do it properly.

I currently have the Injen UICP and LICP and I have been told that the Injen LICP doesn't make as much power as some other LICPs on the market. Which LICP do you fellahs recommend I go with? I was looking at the ETS LP2. Also, for my Injen UICP, I should simply leave it alone as replacing an aftermarket UICP with another aftermarket UICP hasn't been shown to be a great benefit, right?

I cannot tell you fellahs how much I appreciate the feedback all the way from Iraq and I cannot wait to get home.
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 04:40 AM
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I can't say that I've done testing of various LICP/UICP solutions, I'd go with the same brand as your FMIC to ensure good fitment.

a stock IX bov isn't bad, just not ideal for high boost due to leaking, but it will offer good driveabilty
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by pure_evo
I had absolutely no idea this was/is the case as I've gone back and forth about both the BR race and deluxe and the concern that I have was not being a fan of having to trim parts of the car. I will get the CBRD FMIC without question based on this fact alone not to mention the stated whp/wtq gains by Jeff. Is it possible to have it annodized black? Now for a price please...

Sorry, the price is $825.00 plus shipping.
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by pure_evo
I had absolutely no idea this was/is the case as I've gone back and forth about both the BR race and deluxe and the concern that I have was not being a fan of having to trim parts of the car. I will get the CBRD FMIC without question based on this fact alone not to mention the stated whp/wtq gains by Jeff. Is it possible to have it annodized black? Now for a price please...

Chris and Jeff, yes I understand about the BOV concern and I really appreciate the responses. I'm leaning towards the APS twin vent but if I found a used stock IX floating around in the "for sale" threads I'll gladly take it as a suitable substitute. The whole "crushing" aspect still escapes me as to how to do it properly.

I currently have the Injen UICP and LICP and I have been told that the Injen LICP doesn't make as much power as some other LICPs on the market. Which LICP do you fellahs recommend I go with? I was looking at the ETS LP2. Also, for my Injen UICP, I should simply leave it alone as replacing an aftermarket UICP with another aftermarket UICP hasn't been shown to be a great benefit, right?

I cannot tell you fellahs how much I appreciate the feedback all the way from Iraq and I cannot wait to get home.

I have the Injen LICP but I had it modified so it is 2.5" to a reducer coupler like most others these days. You can't go wrong with an ETS product, but I would also recommend the Nesei, and Muse for the price point...

As for the UICP most people say that the tight radius bend right before the TB, and all the other bends cause a lot of turbulance, that my friend is completely up to you... I have the HKS UICP and I will most likely be replacing it with the Muse UICP and mini battery kit in the next few months...
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by CBRD_Caleb
Sorry, the price is $825.00 plus shipping.
Thanks Caleb. What LICP solution do you CBRD fellahs prefer?

Originally Posted by Fast_Freddie
I have the Injen LICP but I had it modified so it is 2.5" to a reducer coupler like most others these days. You can't go wrong with an ETS product, but I would also recommend the Nesei, and Muse for the price point... As for the UICP most people say that the tight radius bend right before the TB, and all the other bends cause a lot of turbulance, that my friend is completely up to you... I have the HKS UICP and I will most likely be replacing it with the Muse UICP and mini battery kit in the next few months...
I appreciate the feedback as always. As you can see, I'm getting things together for this large purchase complements of Uncle Sam and four Iraqi deployments.
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 11:21 AM
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You can either use our Aluminum LICP ($235.00 plus shipping) or the AGP works well too...
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by CBRD_Caleb
You can either use our Aluminum LICP ($235.00 plus shipping) or the AGP works well too...
Sweet. Thanks, Caleb!
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 05:01 PM
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Just got the confirmation my bbk will be here tomorrow. Can't wait to run it.
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 07:40 PM
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I've got a similar setup to Atkins except I run Kelford 272, CBRD FMIC, and EPM O2 Dump and love it. Runs great daily driving through traffic. When you're WOT, it's a quick spooling monster.

I'm running the AMS LICP, however, if I had known CBRD had their own I would be running that instead.
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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by CBRD_Caleb
You can either use our Aluminum LICP ($235.00 plus shipping) or the AGP works well too...
Thanks Caleb. I'm getting a parts list together here in Iraq. Could you PM me the price for the CBRD FMIC and LICP shipped to 76559? I would call but I'm about eight hours ahead of you fellahs. Thanks.
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by griffeyr
the CBRD fmic has a garrett core...i too will be making the switch...my turbo xs fmic was heat soaked @ only 23.6 psi
Whattttttttttt no way with that power level and boost it's in your mind...By the way all intercooler tend to heat soak some it's normal it's called summer time..taking from a person who has a 4inch garret core...
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