Question on 2.3l dyno numbers
I took your advice and took a close look at the last five threads (and most of the FP Red dynos on this site) and stand by my statement! In order for the Red to match the power of the 4088R @ 26PSI - it needs to run 35-40PSI! How long do you think the Red will live at those PSI levels? 4088R can run those PSI levels all day long... The Red has its place, but it can't hang with a 4088R in terms of power output at a given boost level - that my friend is just physics...
Last edited by 03scgt; Jul 16, 2009 at 07:46 AM.
I run a 2g 7-bolt which is similar... 4g63
2.3L Stroker (DARKSIDE PERF)
Ross pistons
Crower super billet rods
Magnus intake manifold (blew apart on me, now have JMF)
Stock 1g 60mm TB
Supertech valvetrain nitrated standard size valves
JUN 272 cams (AMS)
10 injectors injectors (primary, evo 560's)(Secondaries Bosch 1680's)(2- 2200cc seimen deka in ic pipe)
Precision 750 core FMIC
FP HTA 3586 Turbo charger with Tial V-band .82 exh housing. (Forced Performance)
44mm tial wastegate
Custom top mount V- band race manifold manifold (Dannyboy "DB Fab works)
Aem electronic boost controller
Secondary fuel system with 2 Bosch 044 pumps feeding E100 to 6 injectors
Aem 1310 ems
Custom Vega 3in v-band Exhaust (James Vega)
Walbro 255 pump for primary rail
651hp 560tq @ 34psi - This was done on old set up with magnus intake and HKS exhaust mani and T4 .58a/r exhaust housing
possibly dynoing the new set up tomorrow.


2.3L Stroker (DARKSIDE PERF)
Ross pistons
Crower super billet rods
Magnus intake manifold (blew apart on me, now have JMF)
Stock 1g 60mm TB
Supertech valvetrain nitrated standard size valves
JUN 272 cams (AMS)
10 injectors injectors (primary, evo 560's)(Secondaries Bosch 1680's)(2- 2200cc seimen deka in ic pipe)
Precision 750 core FMIC
FP HTA 3586 Turbo charger with Tial V-band .82 exh housing. (Forced Performance)
44mm tial wastegate
Custom top mount V- band race manifold manifold (Dannyboy "DB Fab works)
Aem electronic boost controller
Secondary fuel system with 2 Bosch 044 pumps feeding E100 to 6 injectors
Aem 1310 ems
Custom Vega 3in v-band Exhaust (James Vega)
Walbro 255 pump for primary rail
651hp 560tq @ 34psi - This was done on old set up with magnus intake and HKS exhaust mani and T4 .58a/r exhaust housing
possibly dynoing the new set up tomorrow.
Last edited by Migsubishi; Jul 17, 2009 at 12:04 PM.
Where did you dyno your Evo? The only AWD dynos that I know of in Hampton Roads is All-Aspects, and Dyno inc. But yeah for the boost, and rev limit your numbers seem fine. As far as the weather, I live fairly close to you (Hampton), and I run 27 psi on pump. Thats on the stock block and head with a 6262.
Where did you dyno your Evo? The only AWD dynos that I know of in Hampton Roads is All-Aspects, and Dyno inc. But yeah for the boost, and rev limit your numbers seem fine. As far as the weather, I live fairly close to you (Hampton), and I run 27 psi on pump. Thats on the stock block and head with a 6262.
I run a 2g 7-bolt which is similar... 4g63
2.3L Stroker (DARKSIDE PERF)
Ross pistons
Crower super billet rods
Magnus intake manifold (blew apart on me, now have JMF)
Stock 1g 60mm TB
Supertech valvetrain nitrated standard size valves
JUN 272 cams (AMS)
10 injectors injectors (primary, evo 560's)(Secondaries Bosch 1680's)(2- 2200cc seimen deka in ic pipe)
Precision 750 core FMIC
FP HTA 3586 Turbo charger with Tial V-band .82 exh housing. (Forced Performance)
44mm tial wastegate
Custom top mount V- band race manifold manifold (Dannyboy "DB Fab works)
Aem electronic boost controller
Secondary fuel system with 2 Bosch 044 pumps feeding E100 to 6 injectors
Aem 1310 ems
Custom Vega 3in v-band Exhaust (James Vega)
Walbro 255 pump for primary rail
651hp 560tq @ 34psi - This was done on old set up with magnus intake and HKS exhaust mani and T4 .58a/r exhaust housing
possibly dynoing the new set up tomorrow.



2.3L Stroker (DARKSIDE PERF)
Ross pistons
Crower super billet rods
Magnus intake manifold (blew apart on me, now have JMF)
Stock 1g 60mm TB
Supertech valvetrain nitrated standard size valves
JUN 272 cams (AMS)
10 injectors injectors (primary, evo 560's)(Secondaries Bosch 1680's)(2- 2200cc seimen deka in ic pipe)
Precision 750 core FMIC
FP HTA 3586 Turbo charger with Tial V-band .82 exh housing. (Forced Performance)
44mm tial wastegate
Custom top mount V- band race manifold manifold (Dannyboy "DB Fab works)
Aem electronic boost controller
Secondary fuel system with 2 Bosch 044 pumps feeding E100 to 6 injectors
Aem 1310 ems
Custom Vega 3in v-band Exhaust (James Vega)
Walbro 255 pump for primary rail
651hp 560tq @ 34psi - This was done on old set up with magnus intake and HKS exhaust mani and T4 .58a/r exhaust housing
possibly dynoing the new set up tomorrow.
i guess i misread your statement.the way its worded says the red would need 35-40 psi and race gas to make over 500.i agree with the red taking more to keep up with a 4088 at the same boost levels thats a given.but you can crack 500 with the right mods 30psi and a simple meth kit on the fp red.theres a huge difference in what both turbos flow and make at a given level and obviously the red it going to out spool the big 4088 but the bigger turbo is always going to do better on more boost for longer and have a better top end pull. 

most reds i have seen hit torque peak @ about 4500-4800rpm..
i get 14 psi @ 3900rpm, moving over to e70 and 35-40 psi soon.
need to drop in my bosch 044 running 1650 bluemax
Last edited by Whoop_ass; Jul 22, 2009 at 10:54 PM.
Bringing back an old thread, but oh well. You said your dyno sheet is for All Aspects, but it says Millenium Racing Development in Portsmouth. That and an All Aspects sheet has their logo where it says Winpep7 on your graph. So where did you dyno the car again? AA or MRD?
yeah dude the car was tuned at all aspects but there printer was broke so they sent the graph via email to mrd who built the car and when you load the graph in mrd,s dyno jet program and print it comes out with there name on it but all aspects is the only dyno around our area other than dyno inc. but i just put the 4094 on there and im going to sean ivey to work his magic i want to run it without the denaurted alky this time i hate that aem system
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