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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 04:27 PM
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Just passing the info on as I get it

I didn't know what the CF (first time on this dyno) was & don't quite understand why CF is even used if it isn't valid.

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Also you should change your sig.

UNCORRECTED numbers would be 480hp/380tq.

Adding that extra 20% is really good when you wanna brag.....
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 04:31 PM
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Good point

Good point. However, everyone knows that stuff isn't race gas. It isn't even truly 100 octane (more like 96 or less if you look it up). Race gas contains lead (C-16, Q-16, VP Import, NO2, etc...)

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I guess everyone that lives near an E85 pump can just call E85 "pump gas"
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 04:34 PM
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Umm, when he says "pump" he means 93 octane from the gas station. Not was your meth pump on.

Just for clarification. Did you make 576 hp on 93 octane without meth, or anything else that would make us believe that it was anything other that what it seems?
I guess that explains why you didn't answer my question.
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 04:39 PM
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I did. It was me that posted the answer to "what fuel?"

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I guess that explains why you didn't answer my question.
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by turbooutlaw1976
I did. It was me that posted the answer to "what fuel?"
Wow! Okay, but 6 days later? All the while you could have just clarified it from the beginning, and saved yourself from looking like a fool. Now you carry no credibility, not that you care, it's a forum after all, but it's a shame you'd tarnish your reputation to boast about some numbers, that well, that was a lie. ...but I'm sure you didn't mislead anyone at any point in time, did you? . You're a shady guy.

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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 05:34 PM
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Good point. However, everyone knows that stuff isn't race gas. It isn't even truly 100 octane (more like 96 or less if you look it up). Race gas contains lead (C-16, Q-16, VP Import, NO2, etc...)

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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 05:49 PM
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I actually do care and growing up around race cars and driving a race car since the age of 6, I know the difference between race gas and pump gas. If I am trying to be "shady" as you put it, why am I providing the CF for the dyno and mentioning there was some leftover - what the gas station marketing guys call 100 and 93 in my gas tank? If I was running C-16 (or anything classified as race gas) that would be a different story.

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Wow! Okay, but 6 days later? All the while you could have just clarified it from the beginning, and saved yourself from looking like a fool. Now you carry no credibility, not that you care, it's a forum after all, but it's a shame you'd tarnish your reputation to boast about some numbers, that well, that was a lie. ...but I'm sure you didn't mislead anyone at any point in time, did you? . You're a shady guy.

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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 06:17 PM
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U can pump race gas leaded at VP and other gas stations. Pump gas on most forums is known as 93 oct. **** gas is 91 and below.

I knew from the get go you were not making 570whp with minimal mods and "pump gas"

Honesty is the best policy.
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 06:28 PM
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I kind of see what turbooutlaw is saying. I mean, I can pump CAM 2 into my tank at the local gas station, but it's considered race gas. His is just 100 at the pump. (albeit with a lock on the handle, which usually means you need to verify with the gas station attendant the you are putting it in a jug and not directly into you car) I agree pump gas is normally known as 93 octane, and made the statement I did earlier, and apparently why he offered up the 100 oct info 6 days later. I still think it's shady.
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 06:52 PM
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The lock is on the pump because there is diesel on the same island and people were putting diesel in their cars by accident (according to the station owner). Everyone pumps right into the car because it is legal street/pump gas - no lead. If I had some Sunoco "Ultra 94" in my tank, would that be considered pump gas still (though I don't even think that is available anymore)?

Did a mix of 93 and ~96 offer much of an advantage? We will see.

I'm going to dyno the car one more time with the fuel system it needs. Should be done by this weekend. Also, going to give the meth one last chance with different jets. Then, I will take it to the track the following weekend (possibly this weekend if it is done in time).

Here is what will be tested:

NOTE: Due to the multiple issues I have had with the meth kit, I may abandon it and use Tephra to switch between a pump gas and race gas (C-16 or Import) map...but here is my plan at the moment.

1. Straight pump 93 with no meth (likely) on the dyno & 1/4 mile
2. Straight pump 93 w/ meth (possibly) on the dyno & 1/4 mile
3. Race Gas (C-16 or Import) on the dyno and 1/4 mile

I'll provide YouTube video links going forward, with people to confirm results, so there are no further misunderstandings. I will also prove the results to date this way.

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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by CMB
^ you guys are in the dark. That turbo is just getting warmed up at 24 psi.
damm right ,the fp black with some cam's an E-85 an stock motor ,easy will make 500 whp ..
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Boosted Tuning
+1
The Shop Ct dyno of course reads a lot diffferent
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by turbooutlaw1976
The lock is on the pump because there is diesel on the same island and people were putting diesel in their cars by accident (according to the station owner). Everyone pumps right into the car because it is legal street/pump gas - no lead. If I had some Sunoco "Ultra 94" in my tank, would that be considered pump gas still (though I don't even think that is available anymore)?

Did a mix of 93 and ~96 offer much of an advantage? We will see.

I'm going to dyno the car one more time with the fuel system it needs. Should be done by this weekend. Also, going to give the meth one last chance with different jets. Then, I will take it to the track the following weekend (possibly this weekend if it is done in time).

Here is what will be tested:

NOTE: Due to the multiple issues I have had with the meth kit, I may abandon it and use Tephra to switch between a pump gas and race gas (C-16 or Import) map...but here is my plan at the moment.

1. Straight pump 93 with no meth (likely) on the dyno & 1/4 mile
2. Straight pump 93 w/ meth (possibly) on the dyno & 1/4 mile
3. Race Gas (C-16 or Import) on the dyno and 1/4 mile

I'll provide YouTube video links going forward, with people to confirm results, so there are no further misunderstandings. I will also prove the results to date this way.

Who was the tuner of choice i see the first two tune was dynoflash now theshopct,what make you change tuner
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Boosted Tuning
I guess everyone that lives near an E85 pump can just call E85 "pump gas"
but its true people now call e85 pump gas
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 08:31 PM
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I can also get 110 at the pump by my house and i would not call it pump gas. We also have a station with 98oct no lead that is street legal and i would still not call it pump.
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