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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 01:42 PM
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I believe it was 40+ psi but I may be wrong lol, I was busy socializing since it was a day off lol

Big power for sure!


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ah i might of forgot what Charlie told me then .. either way insane lol.
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 01:45 PM
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Thread and graph coming! I was waiting till I had the Dynojet numbers, but the Dyno wasn't available. On the tune that made 815awhp on the Dynojet with no changes made 648 at Cbrd! 38psi!
how much boost for the 770 then?

are you serious? the 815 dynojet was only 648 at cbrd? thats like 25% difference holy hell.

648 x .025 = 162 (25%)

648 + 162 = 810

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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 02:02 PM
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648/815=.79 so the CBRD dyno was reading 20% lower than the DJ that day. 770/.79=975 on the dynojet. That is pretty badass. You should go back to the DJ at the new power level and see if it really is that difference because that would beat all T3 power records I beleive. If thats the case then the 6765 is doing its job!
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 02:08 PM
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no to find percentages you multiply by the percent 0.20 = 20% 0.19 = %19 ..

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&expIds=...05a7bb65e82229

770 x .025 (25%) = 192

770 + 192 = 962whp dynojet (estimated from actual comparison)

648 (cbrd) x .025 = 810 dynojet (espec)

If his car dynos 962whp dynojet from 770whp at cbrd and cbrd's dyno is 25% difference, then that is beyond the lowest reading mustang in the world.

Will are you positive thats what it did with the espec tune?

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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by tscompusa
no to find percentages you multiply by the percent 0.20 = 20% 0.19 = %19 ..

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&expIds=...05a7bb65e82229

770 x .025 (25%) = 192

770 + 192 = 962whp dynojet (estimated from actual comparison)

648 (cbrd) x .025 = 810 dynojet (espec)

If his car dynos 962whp dynojet from 770whp at cbrd and cbrd's dyno is 25% difference, then that is beyond the lowest reading mustang in the world.

Will are you positive thats what it did with the espec tune?
100 % positive
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 02:47 PM
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Tom if you do the math correctly you will see how it works. Percentages vary wether you are starting with the larger or smaller number. It is a ratio. 815 is 20.5% higher than 648 and 648 is 25.5% lower than 815.



If 648/815 is what the same tune did then the ratio from 770/"X" is what it should make on the DJ.

So 770/X=684/815

So to solve for x you take:

(770/648)*815=968.

So theoretically the car should make 968. Since I had only used 2 decimal places when I did the math the first time it was off by a couple HP.
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no to find percentages you multiply by the percent 0.20 = 20% 0.19 = %19 ..

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&expIds=...05a7bb65e82229

770 x .025 (25%) = 192

770 + 192 = 962whp dynojet (estimated from actual comparison)

648 (cbrd) x .025 = 810 dynojet (espec)

If his car dynos 962whp dynojet from 770whp at cbrd and cbrd's dyno is 25% difference, then that is beyond the lowest reading mustang in the world.

Will are you positive thats what it did with the espec tune?
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 03:13 PM
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Either way this car is making serious power, congrats
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by batty200
Tom if you do the math correctly you will see how it works. Percentages vary wether you are starting with the larger or smaller number. It is a ratio. 815 is 20.5% higher than 648 and 648 is 25.5% lower than 815.



If 648/815 is what the same tune did then the ratio from 770/"X" is what it should make on the DJ.

So 770/X=684/815

So to solve for x you take:

(770/648)*815=968.

So theoretically the car should make 968. Since I had only used 2 decimal places when I did the math the first time it was off by a couple HP.
why is google saying otherwise then? and if its the same difference up and down how does it make percentage change based on distance if its the same distance just one going up one going down.

our numbers are all but the same..

http://www.worsleyschool.net/science...fa/number.html
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...1142748AAHnzio
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rr-IXInEVc



you say 20% so.. 20% of 648 is 129 as backed up by google http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...q=20%25+of+648

so i take 648 + 129 = get your dynojet number since you say its 20%.

that would be 777whp dynojet which is 100% wrong.. he already said he did 815 at espec so its not 20%.

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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 03:41 PM
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If it is 20% LOWER you use 20% of the larger #. 815*0.20=163. 815-163=652. If it was 20% HIGHER it would start with the LOWER number than multiply by 0.2 which 648*0.20=129 648+129=777. You have to realize which number you are talking about to figure the percent change.

Here is the most basic example. If you have $1 and take 50% of your dollar I would take 0.50. But if you have 50cents and I INCREASE it by 50% then I add 25cents and you have 75cents. In order to get back to $1 from 50cents I have to increase by 100%. It is basic math but it confuses many people!
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 03:45 PM
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ya i just read this lol http://www.ehow.com/how_2165137_calc...nt-change.html

and followed that and it came out to 20.5% difference from 815 to 648 .. still a lot. that means my 522 was actually 626 dynojet lol.. so i guess i gained less then i thought over the tune + fmic. i know i did make lots more mid range tho after i altered tune.. whats odd tho is it only displayed 580 on vdr/vd ..... i think because of the air temp vs timing tables in ecu crippled the tune once the car left the dyno

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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 06:34 PM
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All your calculations are out of the window since the fuel system was "de-bugged" and they afr's weren't the same from one dyno to the next.

When he goes back to a dynojet with the current tune that will probably be a better comparison.
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 06:44 PM
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you're probably laughing after seeing all the bull**** we posted about the calculations i bet lol. so its probably 12-13% then lol.
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by tscompusa
you're probably laughing after seeing all the bull**** we posted about the calculations i bet lol. so its probably 12-13% then lol.

It's ok man,,,, It's real easy to jump to conclusions with out all of the DETAILS and FACTS. What's important here is that the pizzaman's whip is ready to whip some major a$$!!

I'm happy that his fuel system is back in check. Buschur was very helpfull through out this process and as usual stood by their product. At 815hp this car was capable of mid 150's traps, now he should be touching 16xx as long as the car can go on a diet and get some traction.... I can't wait to see it go!
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by E-Spec@Tach Motor Works


All your calculations are out of the window since the fuel system was "de-bugged" and they afr's weren't the same from one dyno to the next.

When he goes back to a dynojet with the current tune that will probably be a better comparison.
Agreed

Wasn't as cold out either, I think 48 degrees.


I don't care about any of it, 700+whp is gnarly on our Dyno!!!


Cheers

Cb
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 08:04 PM
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Less dyno talk, more track trip talk.
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