Built 2L HTA86@33psi TT long block E85 700hp! | @40psi - 790hp!
Dec 16, 2011, 04:46 AM
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Then I seen it was at 29 psi and I thought, hmm, 131 at 29psi is pretty damn good! Can't wait to see what it does on 40psi
Dec 16, 2011, 06:04 AM
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so the car never made a pass at the 800whp level? and what fuel was that race gas or e85? i had no idea the car had history. i imagine you tuned it when you were at the shop then (before you left)? because that was his previous tuner (visconti).. which i might add had the car over MBT in numerous areas on the powerband. i dropped timing and it made more power downlow in some areas..
its still conservative downlow to keep the engine happy. could make alittle more tq.. but certainly not needed to get down the track.. 500tq is plenty enough across the board. ask Travis.. he felt it transform into a different car after i was done with it.
was it on stock ecu when you tuned it? or did you have aem or something different on it?
also.. don't judge my car based on what it did so far , there were lots of wrong variables that day.. all you have to do is look at the mph i gained from the 1/8th to the 1/4th to get your answer what my cars doing power wise. im a big noob to the drag strip also.
its still conservative downlow to keep the engine happy. could make alittle more tq.. but certainly not needed to get down the track.. 500tq is plenty enough across the board. ask Travis.. he felt it transform into a different car after i was done with it.
was it on stock ecu when you tuned it? or did you have aem or something different on it?
also.. don't judge my car based on what it did so far , there were lots of wrong variables that day.. all you have to do is look at the mph i gained from the 1/8th to the 1/4th to get your answer what my cars doing power wise. im a big noob to the drag strip also.
As for MBT, etc. Every tuner will bash the next and say whatever to pump themselves up. So that is a mute point.
In the end as long as Travis happy. Then that is all that matters.
Thanks for posting and you are without a doubt a fantastic tuner on gasoline and a good tuner with ethanol. I also believe that when used correctly VD is dead nuts equal to a chassis dyno. And, most importantly, I know that my car is making more power and doing it safer than ever before, due to me re-building it the right way (still not done yet) and Tom's tuning.
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction on several aspects of the car. If, by chance I'm down in the area, I'll line up with whatever you've got from a 40 roll. Be forewarned...this car is A LOT faster than you've ever seen or ridden in at. An OG street racer never gives away all of his tricks....right?
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction on several aspects of the car. If, by chance I'm down in the area, I'll line up with whatever you've got from a 40 roll. Be forewarned...this car is A LOT faster than you've ever seen or ridden in at. An OG street racer never gives away all of his tricks....right?
Im glad you have ironed it out, that car is a special car. I look forward to seeing you get booted from whatever track you end up at!
I rode/drove it when it made over 800whp on the dyno, I know its fast.
Haha.. why did you think I would run a 800whp car against a 600whp one
Jr
Dec 16, 2011, 06:10 AM
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to find e85 use e85prices.com. the crank pulley came off?????????? that is odd.. as far as crank pulleys go i just use fluidampr and never had an issue.. i know lots of people who just use oem and are fine also. the crank pulley bolts should of gotten around 20TQ in a criss cross pattern like lug nuts. maybe someone overlooked them i dont know.
90tq might not be enough.. if you want to lets say TUNE your headstud torque then do a leakdown test right after you torque and if you're off a bit tq down another 5tq and redo the leak down test.. if you see positive change then continue until you see next to 0% leakage. thats what i had to do to my car.. my car is different then others so i just do what i find myself.
its also recommended to check the tq after beating on the car some to confirm they are still within tq spec you last set them.. only check with the engine cold.. sitting overnight.
90tq might not be enough.. if you want to lets say TUNE your headstud torque then do a leakdown test right after you torque and if you're off a bit tq down another 5tq and redo the leak down test.. if you see positive change then continue until you see next to 0% leakage. thats what i had to do to my car.. my car is different then others so i just do what i find myself.
its also recommended to check the tq after beating on the car some to confirm they are still within tq spec you last set them.. only check with the engine cold.. sitting overnight.
I have a fluidampr. Wrong grade of bolts was used to tighten it down so they broke off. Luckily it happened when I was at a stop light. Aside from some of the cool gun metal coating being cleaned off it was still in good condition so we re-used. I believe we re-tq'd down to 100 or 110.....can't remember.
Dec 16, 2011, 09:31 AM
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I don't doubt one bit that car makes over 800whp, it is a beast.. always has been. It is pretty bad *** that the TT long block is still taking those beatings
Im glad you have ironed it out, that car is a special car. I look forward to seeing you get booted from whatever track you end up at!
I rode/drove it when it made over 800whp on the dyno, I know its fast.
Haha.. why did you think I would run a 800whp car against a 600whp one
Jr
TT longblock is very impressive. Compression is still 180 across and the oil analysis reports come back fantastic. I've added an oil cooler which without a doubt will extend the life of the motor. I've been monitoring oil temps for awhile now..let's just say they were too hot without the cooler
Dec 16, 2011, 10:39 AM
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Doubtful it will do 140mph. Needs to put it on a real dyno. This virtual dyno stuff is getting ridiculous and those calculators are easily manipulated. That turbo maxes out at about 800 on ethanol on a real Dynojet and 2.0L. Even yours looks like it uses a 2.4L to make those type of numbers on a real life dyno.
On tscompusa own car his virtual 630whp only traps 128-131mph which is low 500whp range on a dynojet so the numbers definitely appear miscalculated which is why I only pay attention to real dynosheets and trapspeeds.
On tscompusa own car his virtual 630whp only traps 128-131mph which is low 500whp range on a dynojet so the numbers definitely appear miscalculated which is why I only pay attention to real dynosheets and trapspeeds.
Tom went on 18" street tires on a cold track with not a lot of drag racing experience. It will easily go 140MPH when he throws on his drag wheel setup and learns to drive the thing.
When my car was making 542WHP on buschur racings mustang dyno, it made 560 in virtual dyno. Not too far off I would say.
Scott
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Dec 16, 2011, 04:44 PM
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I can also tell you that it is pretty meaningless. I can bog, slow shift to the 1/8th and then lay it on up stairs and pick up big mph on the back half even with a stock turbo.
Stock ECU and AEM. 760ish with stock ecu, 800 on AEM. John tuned it after, since Travis could not get a hold of me.
As for MBT, etc. Every tuner will bash the next and say whatever to pump themselves up. So that is a mute point.
In the end as long as Travis happy. Then that is all that matters.
I don't doubt one bit that car makes over 800whp, it is a beast.. always has been. It is pretty bad *** that the TT long block is still taking those beatings
Im glad you have ironed it out, that car is a special car. I look forward to seeing you get booted from whatever track you end up at!
I rode/drove it when it made over 800whp on the dyno, I know its fast.
Haha.. why did you think I would run a 800whp car against a 600whp one
Jr
Stock ECU and AEM. 760ish with stock ecu, 800 on AEM. John tuned it after, since Travis could not get a hold of me.
As for MBT, etc. Every tuner will bash the next and say whatever to pump themselves up. So that is a mute point.
In the end as long as Travis happy. Then that is all that matters.
I don't doubt one bit that car makes over 800whp, it is a beast.. always has been. It is pretty bad *** that the TT long block is still taking those beatings
Im glad you have ironed it out, that car is a special car. I look forward to seeing you get booted from whatever track you end up at!
I rode/drove it when it made over 800whp on the dyno, I know its fast.
Haha.. why did you think I would run a 800whp car against a 600whp one
Jr
I believe he takes it to Canada to run it. Its amazing how strong the engine is.. it sounds like it was making big power for a long time!
Btw im not bashing, you can ask Travis. He has the maps for proof. Probably should of just kept the info to myself though.. no big deal.
Ya that fp red car is silly. I seen that in the drag section. is that car really light weight? Im sure that is a blast to drive.
Tom
Dec 16, 2011, 04:49 PM
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I have a fluidampr. Wrong grade of bolts was used to tighten it down so they broke off. Luckily it happened when I was at a stop light. Aside from some of the cool gun metal coating being cleaned off it was still in good condition so we re-used. I believe we re-tq'd down to 100 or 110.....can't remember.
Dec 17, 2011, 05:49 AM
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i know that i was talking about the head studs when talking about over tq'ing. I'm hoping for 850+ next year. Looks like its just the xfercase so I 'm going to send it off next month. Not sure if I'm going to change the clutch out yet.
Dec 19, 2011, 02:53 PM
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you should hit your goal 800+ easily. your setup is very well put together.
Dec 20, 2011, 03:58 AM
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Wow this is on the GrimSpeed ebc. I yet to see a high hp use one of these. I have one on my car. But I think it is kinda screwy. Or it might be my waste gate that is messed up in my car. Some days it will go to the set boost level. Then some days it will go past the boost level. Like it has a mind of its own. Have you had anything like this happen with you with that GrimSpeed ?
Dec 20, 2011, 05:31 AM
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Wow this is on the GrimSpeed ebc. I yet to see a high hp use one of these. I have one on my car. But I think it is kinda screwy. Or it might be my waste gate that is messed up in my car. Some days it will go to the set boost level. Then some days it will go past the boost level. Like it has a mind of its own. Have you had anything like this happen with you with that GrimSpeed ?
Dec 20, 2011, 04:39 PM
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Wow this is on the GrimSpeed ebc. I yet to see a high hp use one of these. I have one on my car. But I think it is kinda screwy. Or it might be my waste gate that is messed up in my car. Some days it will go to the set boost level. Then some days it will go past the boost level. Like it has a mind of its own. Have you had anything like this happen with you with that GrimSpeed ?
