lol my bad, i have to live through these threads since i never got to finish my stock block tune, even tho i was happy where it left off....

fyi dont let friends or so called friends drive your car..

good work again.. Tom

 

Badevo aka Scotts car will blow the doors off mine he is use to driving an evo I'm not worried I just like to bust there ***** about it going boom.

 

na his car is makeing what 60 more hp then mine stock block give or take I am not worried really.

 

so jelly! good looking graph also! ur car should go 130+ in 1/4 easy!

 

Thanks, I know Tom did a real good job after we started to make power pulls. I know he prob thought the same thing the car just wanted more and more but it did have a bottle neck in it after a while tring to keep the tq down hahaha. All in all car feels real good and I'm pretty happy with it. The goal was 600/400 but with everything we had to do to get it this far I can't complain with where its at it is def close enough. Once he started with the power pulls we are at now i knew it wasn't gonna be possible due to the more boost we run and getting the timing where it needed to be that it was gonna make more tq at the level its at and not as much power so like I said I'm pretty happy with it

 

Congrats man and good luck when you make it to the track

 

Thanks man

 

JUST what I was looking for man, thanks a lot ! I have been thinking about upgrading to an ef4 with my stock block but couldnt decide because I havent seen any dyno graphs with that setup. NOW I know FOR SURE that I'm going to save up and send my 9 turbo for the ef4 upgrade. Looks like your car is a BLAST to drive seeing the graph lol. Congrats.

 

yea just be careful. enjoy what you have now. My stock motor wasnt happy with 430-450wtq n popped. now im rebuilding you would be amazed how sh*tty the stock rod bolts, and how small the stock rods are compaired to I-Beams. I think i might of had a fuel problem tho being to lean. The Full Blown System is kind of goofy to install n i think the one pump isnt working 100% correctly will find that out soon tho when it is running again

 

Thanks man, yes the car is alot of fun and honestly the way Tom has it tuned the power kinda sneeks up on ya. Being the tq is set up later in the rpm you know its gonna be there, but not like it use to be. Before you could feel it spool and BAM! car takes off like mad. Made it kinda hard to drive being just a huge jolt of power. Now you know its there and are waiting for it, and waiting for it, but the transisition its nice and smooth and just feels like the car pulls and pulls and pulls. I am sure once you get an EF4 I am sure you will have a smile from ear to ear like I do now and makes the car a ton of fun to drive.

 

The evo rods are the same as the dsm 2g rods. I am aware of what they are and how weak they can be. It sucked your car popped like that and yeah fueling will do that . I know I will go with a 2.4 setup myself when the funds are more available to me. I am hopeing this setup will last me a little while till I can go back to work and get some money put away again. I don't beat on the car all that much. Usually only rev to like 7k tops as it is. I am sure it will be fine. Also make sure you put a Hobbs switch in that Full Blown setup of yours. I know 2 pumps running at the same time led to basically one melting in my talon a few years back. Thankfully I was in the parking lot at the shootout idleing or that could have been bad.

 

Lets just say your car had a history of violence.. any evo that has rust marks on the hubs from rx7 wheels is not a safe evo to be beating on LOL.. that car had slicks on it for a long *** time.. i really laughed when i seen those marks.. i went home and checked my rx7 wheels & they were identical lol.

That said -- you really cant go lean with one of my sd basemaps, the ve is jacked up downlow and the fuel maps rich and the calibration mapping is close to 1:1 so its always gonna be richer. even if you ran on 1 pump it wouldnt run lean.. i have a customer who had his hobb malfunction and he kept running on 1 pump.. car went lean uptop sure, but not really much downlow at pk tq.. cause of the way the car was tuned..

either way car is being refreshed and will be hauling *** again soon so no worries. your problem was your engine was exhausted and was only hanging on by a limb.. which is most likely why they dumped the car.

Its setup similar to Scott's.. it should stay together.. it feels smooth now because the boost comes in soft.. the 3 port is known to lag spool response ever so slightly vs a mbc because the way they work.. the 3 port can not keep the flapper from opening during spool where as the mbc can.. it always cracks open alittle, therefore the transition downlow feels smoother.. i couldnt deal with that on my car so i put the mbc back on.. i want a brutal hit.. however i am gonna be testing a mbc + 3 port soon and documenting everything on the forum.. so if someone else wants to do it they can read my documentation and do it!

That said -- your car should be fine for a long time even with the tq where it is. cant wait to see what it does with Scott in it.

Ya the rods are tiny.. were building his engine and i showed him the i-beam beside the stock and he was so surprised.. as was i.. there's a huge difference.. almost scary.. the stock rods are like toothpicks. that's why its very very important the tune must be dead on the money or you can chuck a rod or blow a piston in a million pieces easy on the stock block.. the stock blocks aren't staying together because they are freaks vs others.. its because of the tuning history & and the tuning in them.. Scotts car is setup where its leaving timing on the table but not much.. just enough to make it safe about 2 deg left on the table.

I'll install a hobb switch for him.. are you saying when you run 2 pumps at once side by side that close they get excessively hot or what?

He has a aftermarket FPR right now.

 

This is what happens when you put 2 together without a hobbs switch.

this is the first one at the shootout 2 or 3 years ago.


this is after I bought 2 new pumps after I got back home within 3 days of each other.


the pumps will get extemely hot if they are run both at the same time. That and the fact even setup with 2 totally different circuits after rewire this is what happens. I am smart enough (although some may not believe it) to know that the amps that is being drawn from the 2 pumps at a time is way more then the power the wire is capable of. I had 1 relay 2 separate circuits and thats what happened. Only thing I can think of that happened was I had power drawn off the same spot and grounded at the same location on the car.

 

Pull those out of your gas tank with a half tank go gas and watch how white your face is and after you start throwing up knowing what could have happened.

 

not good.. well im gonna put a hobb switch on his then.. its easy to do. no point in running both pumps out of boost anyways.