JohnBradley

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Jean has been deployed to Afghanistan for the past year but as soon as he returned he had a plan. While deployed he had started to mass parts together with the intention of bringing us his Evo VIII to bolt on the following-

FP DBB Black
GSC S3 camshafts
GSC Springs
FIC 1050s
ETS 3.5" FMIC kit with pipes
ER SD intake and tune
Omnipower 4 bar MAP sensor
Competition Stage 2 clutch
AEM Tru-Boost
92 octane

Originally the plan was to also install a JDL O2 dump and some other parts but the need for a clutch cancelled that for the time being. Currently it only has a ported Megan O2 housing but we'll be revisiting that as soon as Jean is ready.

The results-



We have done this combination before on E85 and I am always surprised at how well it idles on the 2.0L. I definitely dont suggest these cams for less than a Black but as you can see its making 444whp at 26psi with no dump where most of our S2 cars have a dump, 28-29psi, and make 450. The blip at the end wasnt real apparently I am losing a 5 bar MAP sensor on the dyno.

Congrats Jean

Aaron

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Great results...

Can you overlay a similar setup with S2's? I am curious how much the S2's vs S3's impact spool on a 2L.

JohnBradley

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Sure thing. One more dyno sheet/post to make and then I will come back to this.

Aaron

evo8426

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I'm glad all these graphs are being posted lately, it has definitely changed my mind about running a different turbo.

Its nothing personal against you guys at ER, but I cannot see what all the hype is over these turbos on a stock bottom end.

forc3 f3d

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lol just hatin all over the place i see. you realize this is on pump gas, not e85?? those are good numbers when theres still parts that are wanting to be switched out which will make better numbers.

dscevo8

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My car only made 430hp on a journal bearing black on pump gas... BUT my car also made 575/513 on E85 with the same turbo.

This car could be an absolute beast if a dump was put on and switched to E85

evo8426

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Oh no...I'm not hating but I guess the internet makes it seem that way. I'm really a nice guy

Yes I realize this is on 92 pump, I do find the 23psi part impressive though. It's just nothing seems worth the $2500 price tag anymore, atleast on pump gas.

dscevo8, 575 is great but you have a built motor and can take advantage of what this turbo has to offer.

AreSTG

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i'm pretty sure you are referencing stock block cars in this statement? if not, keep in mind that on builds with all the bells and whistles, an FP Black can make mid 500's on pump gas.

evo8426

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Yes I'm only talking about stock bottom ends. Built motors these things make stupid power

CurseDSM

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I know plenty of stock block cars that makes stupid power as well that are still holding strong. Great #'s Aaron, really looks like a fun car to drive.

evo8426

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I'm not sure how to say it but I guess I would call it "peaky" power? But I guess if a tiny power band is fun to others or a car that is only fun to drive over 80mph is what you want then I guess I don't have much to say.

This isn't meant to be dragged out as an argument, it is how I feel.

Throw this turbo on a 2.3-2.4 and it is a totally different animal, which to me would be much more desirable.

JohnBradley

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I wouldnt call this peaky at all.

Peaky is a Honda, Evo X with a 35R, or the 6266 I did last night that boost creeps out the top and never really stops making power. This is actually a pretty broad powerband. Since 450whp is normally the limit for 92 octane and stock appearing turbos without meth or E85, I am excited about this because another 2-3psi and a dump could go a long way.

The best I have done on a 2.4 and straight pumpgas is 492. That was S2s, stock intake, no dump. I am not sure that 550 happens on pump, but with some added octane for sure.

Aaron

evo8426

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I'm not quite sure what the word is that I'm looking for, I didn't mean it as it is like a mountain peak. I did notice it was on 92oct instead of the typical 93oct here on the East Coast.

Just wondering, how does a car like this exact one feel on the street flooring it from stoplight to stoplight?

Blue91lx

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I think what I find interesting is that we see FP Green cars make more power than Blacks on pump gas, with smaller cams etc. It's because the smaller turbo is more in it's efficiency range at lower boost than a bigger turbo, correct?

JohnBradley

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From my experience yes.

The Green is really getting maxed out around 28-29psi where a Red is starting to live at that boost level, and a Black needs 33-34psi to really get going. The thing I am seeing here is that we have ways to bypass some of that by using a cam that makes better power out the top.

Aaron