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Old Nov 12, 2013 | 09:52 AM
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Old Nov 12, 2013 | 10:22 AM
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Old Nov 12, 2013 | 11:23 AM
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Thanks Zhong
I think this BBK-B is well suited to the 2.3 10:1 Buschur 2.3RPM motor.

I do suspect that the BBk-Full would perform equally well as this reasonably conservative tune, perhaps present some more restriction at the top end and higher EGT with that, but running 3 hot laps I don't believe that would be a problem.

I think also that the BBK-B is performing unusually well at the bottom, compared to what I've observed until now, in part perhaps due to the 10:1 and 2.3?

Would like to see the 91 map tune, it would be a very interesting cocktail of 10:1 with moderately large turbo. If it can take enough timing in low rpm it would really prove Mr. Buschurs claim that 10:1 is no problem on 91 or 87 even. I 've never seen pump gas dyno of stock-frame on high compression, conservative tune.

Now inspect before each run the engine overall, and check oil, to ensure this is the last motor you need next 2-3 successful racing years.
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Old Nov 12, 2013 | 12:41 PM
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That full torque hit at around 3300, to me, means this is the perfect street turbo (for what I am looking for). I have some 9.75:1 MIL.SPEC pistons looking for a short block lol...they've been waiting 2 years
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Old Nov 12, 2013 | 01:51 PM
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I was surprised that I hit max torque before 3500rpms. If I went with a bigger turbo (FP HTA Black or Borgwarner 8374) and lets say have max torque at 4200rpms...wow. Imagine all the topend grunt at 30-32psi. I am usually 95% above 4500-5000rpms anyway on the track. With so much power, I think traction coming off a turn will be the next issue/weak link. Need some meaty sticky 285s...then that causes stress on oiling system (especially high g/high speed right handers/high rpm).

No problem Ivica.

Erik, car feels awesome. In LA stop and go (literally) Traffic kinda sucks though as would all turbos. lol. I have my fun at the meter lights. rev out each gear to 7k. hahahaha.
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Old Nov 12, 2013 | 02:09 PM
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Honestly, I've never minded LA traffic. But I have a reverse commute. Looking forward to my build getting done (finally)

Thanks for the feedback and dyno plot.
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Old Nov 12, 2013 | 04:33 PM
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IBTL!!
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So this is 4th gear on a Mustang Dyno?
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Old Nov 12, 2013 | 05:50 PM
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Old Nov 12, 2013 | 06:18 PM
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Thanks. I got almost the exact same dyno plots (and numbers) when I dynoed my Evo on ER's DJ in 3rd gear and Surgeline's MD in 4th gear (within a few days of each other in similar weather), so this gives me a better idea of what I might expect from this turbo on a DJ.
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Old Nov 12, 2013 | 07:06 PM
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Looks great for that boost level Zhong.

For reference, you probably remember this one. 2.3L, BBK-B, set on street kill, bit more boost then you are running, 3rd and 4th gear

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Old Nov 12, 2013 | 10:19 PM
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Great to "see you" Brian

PS now on 2.3 W/HKS....more details to follow, as soon as its ready
PSS Do you have any data for FP Red (maybe even BB, on 2.3) perhaps? On GST dyno?
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Old Nov 13, 2013 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by alpinaturbo
Great to "see you" Brian

PS now on 2.3 W/HKS....more details to follow, as soon as its ready
PSS Do you have any data for FP Red (maybe even BB, on 2.3) perhaps? On GST dyno?
I was never a fan of the Red to be honest. Had a couple come through and wasn't impressed.

We ran reds on both the Redline TA Evo 9's and we kept melting the turbines and ruining race days, so yea, they left a bad taste in my mouth

FPgreen is probably the best turbo they make, for a street car.
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Old Nov 13, 2013 | 04:49 PM
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Thanks Bryan
And BBK-B on pump gas on 2.3 stroker, for street car with track aspiration?
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Old Nov 16, 2013 | 01:46 AM
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Hey was busy with Super Lap Battle at Buttonwillow Raceway Park this past Thur. I ended up getting 5th place in Limited AWD Class with a 1:53.396. Tires were NT01s 275/40/17s.

Here is the hot lap. It was on the high boost map of 27psi peak and then gradual taper down to redline. There was another 1.5s in the car easily as is. Wished for more rotation.

Here are the results
http://hellafunctional.com/?p=1531

New records in bold.

Enthusiast FWD
1 – 2:01.314 – Pradana Willianto – Evasive/SCM Acura CSX

Enthusiast RWD
1 – 1:58.338 – Rif Daghter – M3
2 – 1:58.458 – Amir Bentatou – StanceWorks M3
3 – 2:01.680 – PoWei Huang – Bobs Donut M3
4 – 2:01.733 – Chris Reber – Mustang GT

Enthusiast AWD
1 – 1:56.509 – Craig Peyron – Robispec/Yimisport STI
1 – 1:58.2?? – Tony Fuentes – Evo X
2 – 2:04.613 – Michael Jantz – STI
3 – 2:10.931 – Michael Cruz – Massimo EVO

Street FWD
1 – 2:02.256 – Chris Boersma – Boersma Racing Civic
2 – 2:03.654 – Jason Lee – SCM/Hankook Civic
3 – 2:06.271 – Ken Suen – Civic si

Street RWD
1 – 1:54.969 – Will Wattawonkiri – 240SX
2 – 1:58.151 – Ricky Kwan – R’s Tuning M3
3 – 1:59.504 – Mike Kang – CounterSpace Garage Subaru BRZ
4 – 2:00.041 – Ron Chang – R’s Tuning BMW M3
4 – 2:04.794 – Ashton Stander – Hillbank Mustang
5 – 2:04.994 – Andrew Nier – Nier Racing Group Ford Mustang GT
6 – 2:15.587 – Terry Liu – Air Rex Nissan 370Z

Street AWD
1 – 1:53.068 – Brian Bengali – Massimo EVO
2 – 1:53.207 – Mark Jager – Jager/Yimisport STI
3 – 1:55.398 – Breck Haggerty – AQ Motorsports STI
4 – 1:56.734 – John Carson – KTMotoring/Robispec/ETS EVO
5 – 1:56.835 – Spencer Li – ???
6 – 1:57.031 – Taylor Wilson – Snail Performance 09 WRX
7 – 2:01.468 – Matt Dennison – RRE/Robispec EVO
8 – 2:01.898 – Istvan Klag – Night Motorsport STI
9 – 2:03.882 – Todd Earsley – My Shop Assist EVO

Limited FWD
1 – 1:52.886 – Dr. Tim Kuo – Sportcar Motion ITR
2 – 1:55.665 – James Houghton – R Division Integra
3 – 1:58.158 – Kevin Courtney – Bobby Lane Accord
4 – 1:59.273 – Tony Jackson – Eibach Civic
5 – 2:00.081 – Doug Wind – Windspeed SRT-4

Limited RWD
1 – 1:48.038 – Tyler McQuarrie – Platteform AG M3
2 – 1:50.152 – Adam Knapik – FRSport 240SX
3 – 1:53.639 – Cody Kishil – Kishel racing M3
4 – 1:54.565 – Ricky Kwan – R’s Tuning M3
5 – 1:56.274 – Tom Tang – Blacktrax/Tunerplayground S2000
6 – 1:58.820 – Derrick Lee – A&J racing BRZ
6 – 2:00.461 – Terry Liu – ?
8 – 2:03.165 – Kevin Parlett – SOHO Motorports G35
8 – 2:08.784 – Larry Chen – Speedhunters 240Z
9 – 2:09.531 – Dai Yoshihara – Lexus IS
10 – 2:15.971 – Reid Yoken – Whiteline Corvette?

Limited AWD
1 – 1:49.102 – Michael Chang – Evasive EVO
2 – 1:50.029 – Clint Boisdeau – Novak Racing GC Impreza
3 – 1:51.791 – Ryan Gates – Gates 311 EVO X
4 – 1:53.079 – JC Meynet – AQ Motorsports STI
5 – 1:53.396 – Zhong Cheung – FFTEC EVO
4 – 1:54.287 – Tim Pu – R’s Tuning GTR
5 – 1:55.242 – Alex Lewandowski – JDM Factory EVO
7 – 1:57.812 – Roy Narvaez – RD Engineering GTR
8 – 1:58.192 – Ivo Mitkov – Renner Motorsports GC Impreza

Unlimted FWD
1 – 2:05.072 – Craig Utter – JDMspeedshop Civic

Unlimited AWD
1 – 1:52.781 – Anthony Szrika – UMS Tuning EVO
2 – 1:58.663 – Texas Dave – Rally Ready EVO
3 – 2:03.171 – Coco Zurtz – RRE EVO X

My class was stacked with REALLY fast drivers/cars. Super Lap Battle event was my first event after getting all the new aero/suspension work/engine in the car from the incident the month before. Not bad for a shakedown day. I was aiming for 5th and got it. 4th place was within reach. So close to 52s. AWD Street Class was insane. Those top 2 cars both destroyed the previous lap record by over 1.5s and on a smaller 255 tire. Both the drivers are fast and cars were well setup and balanced.
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Old Nov 16, 2013 | 09:14 AM
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After seeing the competition within which you performed, I am impressed.
Seasoned race teams with optimized setups, and an enthusiast with passion driving his only DD/Track car.
Awesome

Did you change suspension components?
Just servicing and repairing or upgraded for more grip?
Would like to know what. I suspect Robi aligned the chassis after sorting repairs?
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