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Are these numbers you kiwi gents made on rollers or hub dyno?
I made 312kw on a hub dyno with my stock 9 turbo but on E85..
I made 312kw on a hub dyno with my stock 9 turbo but on E85..
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Are these numbers you kiwi gents made on rollers or hub dyno?
I made 312kw on a hub dyno with my stock 9 turbo but on E85
yes hub dyno, im now awaiting a few more parts from AWDMOTORSPORTS then looking at remote tune with Jay from Boosted tuning. Running E85 or Race fuel on high boost is now something im certainly looking at. and keeping 98 ron on low boost. Are these numbers you kiwi gents made on rollers or hub dyno?
I made 312kw on a hub dyno with my stock 9 turbo but on E85
While my results are good in New Zealand there pretty poor comparing to the U.S for the supporting mods I do have. my tuner here can not up the boost any more then 25Psi on 98ron. While tuners like Jay can get around 30psi. So I still have more potential just looking at unleashing it.
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300kw on hub dyno ain't impressive at all.
What fuel pump and injectors are you running?
What fuel pump and injectors are you running?
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300kw on hub dyno ain't impressive at all.
In NZ 300KW stock block , 98 ron , and not running a Garrett 3582 (like most people) is pretty good. 300kw on hub dyno ain't impressive at all.
Im not the first to make 300Kw on the stock on 98ron so its not amazing. But only a few people have managed to do so. a lot of tried and failed.
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Im not the first to make 300Kw on the stock on 98ron so its not amazing. But only a few people have managed to do so. a lot of tried and failed.
Originally Posted by nzevo8
In NZ 300KW stock block , 98 ron , and not running a Garrett 3582 (like most people) is pretty good. Im not the first to make 300Kw on the stock on 98ron so its not amazing. But only a few people have managed to do so. a lot of tried and failed.
Yeah most people here only use Garrett turbos and normally tuners recommend larger turbos so they have to run less boost to reach the power goal but they spool so bad.
The issue isnt 300kw but the mods you are using to get there. That result should have been achieved with the 9 turbo on 98 (US 93) and the FP Red should have been much higher.
I agree on the stock block part though, most tuners wont even go close to 300kw (400whp) on a stock 9 block for some reason here. I think the remote tune will be good even though it does take a little while going back and forth but will be worth it in the end. I reckon you shouldnt have a problem maxing out the FP red turbo on stock block safely so dont hold back.
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Now as far on my setup, since you have not been in the car or even seen it, do not make any sort of moronic assumptions. No lugging, and no crusing needed in high gears as you mean it. The above mentioned value was experienced on 4th from a 2K rpm pull. Anyone who has experienced the stock 9,8 housing turbo , the 71 series stock turbo, the 71hta one or even the hks 7460r, and a properly done setup to aid spool knows what I am talking about. The car is instatly on boost the moment you put your foot down. I consider the fp red on MHI housings the same as the hks 7460r in spool, but with much better top end power and much more "full" powerband.
Marios
I went from stock cams, to HKS 272's, and then to these same low lift kelford 272's with map springs. The kelfords make more power than the HKS cams... they have quite a bit more duration (226 vs 216).. and only a tad less lift. They don't make a ton more power, but they make more power- period. You are misinformedOriginally Posted by Evo8cy
Obviously you need to read more on camshafts or experiment more on them as you obviously know **** all about how to and what camshafts to choose for each specific application. The hks 272 or 280s, and I would go for the 280s personally if I was doing another fp red setup. The slightly more effective duration the specific kelford 272s have in comparison with the hks 280s is not needed for an fp red, especially on a stock head, the fact though that the lift is limited to 10mm creates a bit of an in balance in my book. A bit more lift and a bit less duration is perfect for the fp red. It is also not only down to these two cam characteristics, but on the whole package the hks 280s offer. I also based my suggestion on his intention to run low lift cams for obvious reasons, and on the fact that he is on stock head. The hks 280s are more than enough for an fp red turbo in the sense of giving stock spool up characteristics but lose little of top end on an fp red in comparison to more aggressive cams, and I am not implying the ones that he already has as he will lose nothing in terms of max power based on his dyno plot but gain low end power instead, thus broadening his powerband. He also does not want to change springs or retainers. Repeating myself to make sure this is clear enough, the hks 280s will give a broader powerband than the ones he is already using on his setup without losing top end power.Now as far on my setup, since you have not been in the car or even seen it, do not make any sort of moronic assumptions. No lugging, and no crusing needed in high gears as you mean it. The above mentioned value was experienced on 4th from a 2K rpm pull. Anyone who has experienced the stock 9,8 housing turbo , the 71 series stock turbo, the 71hta one or even the hks 7460r, and a properly done setup to aid spool knows what I am talking about. The car is instatly on boost the moment you put your foot down. I consider the fp red on MHI housings the same as the hks 7460r in spool, but with much better top end power and much more "full" powerband.
Marios