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Old Jun 24, 2015 | 05:06 PM
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Ground Next to Cam Position Sensor

Hi Guys,

I have a question regarding the ground wire that is bolted to the head next to the cam positioning sensor.

Is this ground wire fed straight from the negative battery terminal to the block or does it come from a pin on the ecu or any other delicate sources?

The wire in question is in the top middle yellow circle.

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I fear I may have sparked this wire against the positive battery terminal while removing the battery. Thanks in advance guys.

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Old Aug 23, 2015 | 12:55 AM
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Bump for an answer? looking to trace it back and replace just this wire as well. I know its an earth point I was able to research on this..

http://www.lilevo.com/mirage/EVO%208...l%20Manual.pdf

Page 48 and 49 #10 diagram
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Old Aug 24, 2015 | 09:57 AM
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Hey K20,

Thank you for the reply,

I checked for continuity to the chassis and it is directly connected. My guess is that you can actually put that wire anywhere on the bare frame or engine and it would still behave the same. I fired up the car and didn't notice any difference either. For some reason I thought that it was specifically fed to a resistor pull down source at the ecu or maybe the negative signal lead to the cam position sensor haha. Guess I was wrong.

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Old Oct 21, 2015 | 09:47 PM
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I traced it all the way back about 2 1/2 feet towards the passenger side and it bundled to other multiple grounds. replaced it all and no problems so far.
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Old Oct 22, 2015 | 09:52 AM
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That's a relief! So it's just part of ground distribution.

Thanks for the update K20!

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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 04:28 PM
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im having an issue with this wire, i just put my engine back together, and i went to fire the var up and the wire heated up and melted the casing right off it
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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 05:40 PM
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Last year, K20 to Evo verified that it is connected to a collection of grounds. You have/had a short. Somewhere on that wire where it is seeing positive voltage. I would start by peeling back the insulation and checking the wiring harness for any tears or cuts in the loom where this wire travels.

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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 05:53 PM
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Here are two more threads that are similar to mine who talk about the same issue. Strange they all popped up at once.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...eating-up.html

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...y-grounds.html

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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 07:01 PM
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i did some more checking of wires, i forgot to put the ground from battery to transmission. could that be it? car started up right away when i did.
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Old Jan 13, 2016 | 10:29 AM
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Good question. If that was really the solution to the problem, then that means that the tiny cam sensor ground wire was picking up all the current that the thicker transmission ground was supposed to handle.

When you try to pass high current through a small wire you get a lot of heat due to the high resistance of the small wire i.e. 12v=IR.

That could have been the cause of your problem. I say drive it around and check it often until you feel comfortable that the problem is fixed.

If you really want to be sure, I would disconnect the cam ground wire from the engine and check for continuity between the wire and the chassis using a multimeter to make sure it wasn't severed then bolt it back up.

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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Pal215
Good question. If that was really the solution to the problem, then that means that the tiny cam sensor ground wire was picking up all the current that the thicker transmission ground was supposed to handle.

When you try to pass high current through a small wire you get a lot of heat due to the high resistance of the small wire i.e. 12v=IR.

That could have been the cause of your problem. I say drive it around and check it often until you feel comfortable that the problem is fixed.

If you really want to be sure, I would disconnect the cam ground wire from the engine and check for continuity between the wire and the chassis using a multimeter to make sure it wasn't severed then bolt it back up.

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good idea, i will.
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