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Actually, we're thinking 2 weeks from now. Time has been on our side and no unexpected delays so far. We're just waiting on end tanks and we have about 95 or so cores ready to weld. Originally we were going to come up with the final design and test for another 2 months, but after a year of testing almost, i think we're ready for release. Plus i've been getting a lot of emails regarding this core.
Pricing isnt certain yet. What we're thinking is $700 +/- $25 range. We're thinking of doing a switcheroo discount where if you're switching brands of aftermarket cores, we'd give you a discount on this core. I'm meeting with everyone else next week and we're going to come up with the final price.
EDIT: Woops, looks like i posted from my other ID.
Pricing isnt certain yet. What we're thinking is $700 +/- $25 range. We're thinking of doing a switcheroo discount where if you're switching brands of aftermarket cores, we'd give you a discount on this core. I'm meeting with everyone else next week and we're going to come up with the final price.
EDIT: Woops, looks like i posted from my other ID.
Yes, it should. The stock piping lines up with this intercooler, so if you can use the helix with the stock FMIC, it should work. As long as the pipes dont angle upward at the intercooler endtanks. I dont think they do since Helix has an FMIC coming out too.
Originally Posted by myevostore.com
Yes, it should. The stock piping lines up with this intercooler, so if you can use the helix with the stock FMIC, it should work. As long as the pipes dont angle upward at the intercooler endtanks. I dont think they do since Helix has an FMIC coming out too.
there is a thread somewhere that advertises the scc temp tests done on the turboxs intercooler... can anyone cough up those numbers or help find that thread... i can't find it for the life of me.
Ok everyone,
We tested the Nisei core out last night and were suprised with the results. We went head to head with the GReddy V-spec Intercooler by testing both cores out on the same car with probes drilled in to the end tanks of each core. The ambient temp was 53 degrees F so we were thinking it was a bad time to really show how good the Nisei core is since the GReddy wouldn't have to work as hard to stay cool due to the low ambient temp. The Nisei core still managed to cool consistently 20 - 25 degrees more than the GReddy. Imagine what the results would be at 90 degrees ambient! We're thinking we would be looking at 50 - 80 degree difference in both cores. When looking at the GReddy core, you can see how bad of a design it really is. If you can hold up the core to the light and see through it then that's bad. The Nisei core has no light penetration while the greddy I could look down and even see my shoe with it. I have pictures of everything we're going to publish on the website. So, to sum up the test here's the 3 runs we did:
Ambient temp: 53F
Speed: 4th gear WOT pull to 110MPH at redline (that's why we test at 3 am...no other traffic in sight on the freeway)
GReddy V-spec:
Run 1:
Inlet temp - 193
Outlet temp - 78
Run 2:
Inlet temp - 210
Outlet temp - 84
Run 3:
Inlet temp - 204
Outlet temp - 84
Nisei Engineering Core:
Run 1:
Inlet temp - 201
Outlet temp - 66
Run 2:
Inlet temp - 210
Outlet temp - 62
Run 3:
Aborted because we started seeing traffic (approx 4:30 AM people heading to work)
We're anxious to run more tests in hotter weather. We have numbers from march of last year I posted previously. We're going to be testing some other competitors cores in the next coming weeks.
Ok, for the question everyone wanted answered: When will the intercooler be available? Now! We have 3 intercoolers done and ready to ship and 60 more end tanks getting polished. I will be adding the intercooler to myevostore.com today and i'll reply with the link.
Thanks everyone for your time!
Rob
We tested the Nisei core out last night and were suprised with the results. We went head to head with the GReddy V-spec Intercooler by testing both cores out on the same car with probes drilled in to the end tanks of each core. The ambient temp was 53 degrees F so we were thinking it was a bad time to really show how good the Nisei core is since the GReddy wouldn't have to work as hard to stay cool due to the low ambient temp. The Nisei core still managed to cool consistently 20 - 25 degrees more than the GReddy. Imagine what the results would be at 90 degrees ambient! We're thinking we would be looking at 50 - 80 degree difference in both cores. When looking at the GReddy core, you can see how bad of a design it really is. If you can hold up the core to the light and see through it then that's bad. The Nisei core has no light penetration while the greddy I could look down and even see my shoe with it. I have pictures of everything we're going to publish on the website. So, to sum up the test here's the 3 runs we did:
Ambient temp: 53F
Speed: 4th gear WOT pull to 110MPH at redline (that's why we test at 3 am...no other traffic in sight on the freeway)
GReddy V-spec:
Run 1:
Inlet temp - 193
Outlet temp - 78
Run 2:
Inlet temp - 210
Outlet temp - 84
Run 3:
Inlet temp - 204
Outlet temp - 84
Nisei Engineering Core:
Run 1:
Inlet temp - 201
Outlet temp - 66
Run 2:
Inlet temp - 210
Outlet temp - 62
Run 3:
Aborted because we started seeing traffic (approx 4:30 AM people heading to work)
We're anxious to run more tests in hotter weather. We have numbers from march of last year I posted previously. We're going to be testing some other competitors cores in the next coming weeks.
Ok, for the question everyone wanted answered: When will the intercooler be available? Now! We have 3 intercoolers done and ready to ship and 60 more end tanks getting polished. I will be adding the intercooler to myevostore.com today and i'll reply with the link.
Thanks everyone for your time!
Rob
Last edited by myevostore.com; Mar 4, 2005 at 01:47 PM.
do you have an rspec or a br ic to test? cuz those are more relavent i think. thanks very much for publishing numbers on teh nisei though, this will be welcomed news for many people!
Originally Posted by trinydex
do you have an rspec or a br ic to test? cuz those are more relavent i think. thanks very much for publishing numbers on teh nisei though, this will be welcomed news for many people!
I'm hoping to have more competitor's numbers in the next couple weeks!
Originally Posted by myevostore.com
Ok everyone,
We tested the Nisei core out last night and were suprised with the results. We went head to head with the GReddy V-spec Intercooler by testing both cores out on the same car with probes drilled in to the end tanks of each core. The ambient temp was 53 degrees F so we were thinking it was a bad time to really show how good the Nisei core is since the GReddy wouldn't have to work as hard to stay cool due to the low ambient temp. The Nisei core still managed to cool consistently 20 - 25 degrees more than the GReddy. Imagine what the results would be at 90 degrees ambient! We're thinking we would be looking at 50 - 80 degree difference in both cores. When looking at the GReddy core, you can see how bad of a design it really is. If you can hold up the core to the light and see through it then that's bad. The Nisei core has no light penetration while the greddy I could look down and even see my shoe with it. I have pictures of everything we're going to publish on the website. So, to sum up the test here's the 3 runs we did:
Ambient temp: 53F
Speed: 4th gear WOT pull to 110MPH at redline (that's why we test at 3 am...no other traffic in sight on the freeway)
GReddy V-spec:
Run 1:
Inlet temp - 193
Outlet temp - 78
Run 2:
Inlet temp - 210
Outlet temp - 84
Run 3:
Inlet temp - 204
Outlet temp - 84
Nisei Engineering Core:
Run 1:
Inlet temp - 201
Outlet temp - 66
Run 2:
Inlet temp - 210
Outlet temp - 62
Run 3:
Aborted because we started seeing traffic (approx 4:30 AM people heading to work)
We're anxious to run more tests in hotter weather. We have numbers from march of last year I posted previously. We're going to be testing some other competitors cores in the next coming weeks.
Ok, for the question everyone wanted answered: When will the intercooler be available? Now! We have 3 intercoolers done and ready to ship and 60 more end tanks getting polished. I will be adding the intercooler to myevostore.com today and i'll reply with the link.
Thanks everyone for your time!
Rob
We tested the Nisei core out last night and were suprised with the results. We went head to head with the GReddy V-spec Intercooler by testing both cores out on the same car with probes drilled in to the end tanks of each core. The ambient temp was 53 degrees F so we were thinking it was a bad time to really show how good the Nisei core is since the GReddy wouldn't have to work as hard to stay cool due to the low ambient temp. The Nisei core still managed to cool consistently 20 - 25 degrees more than the GReddy. Imagine what the results would be at 90 degrees ambient! We're thinking we would be looking at 50 - 80 degree difference in both cores. When looking at the GReddy core, you can see how bad of a design it really is. If you can hold up the core to the light and see through it then that's bad. The Nisei core has no light penetration while the greddy I could look down and even see my shoe with it. I have pictures of everything we're going to publish on the website. So, to sum up the test here's the 3 runs we did:
Ambient temp: 53F
Speed: 4th gear WOT pull to 110MPH at redline (that's why we test at 3 am...no other traffic in sight on the freeway)
GReddy V-spec:
Run 1:
Inlet temp - 193
Outlet temp - 78
Run 2:
Inlet temp - 210
Outlet temp - 84
Run 3:
Inlet temp - 204
Outlet temp - 84
Nisei Engineering Core:
Run 1:
Inlet temp - 201
Outlet temp - 66
Run 2:
Inlet temp - 210
Outlet temp - 62
Run 3:
Aborted because we started seeing traffic (approx 4:30 AM people heading to work)
We're anxious to run more tests in hotter weather. We have numbers from march of last year I posted previously. We're going to be testing some other competitors cores in the next coming weeks.
Ok, for the question everyone wanted answered: When will the intercooler be available? Now! We have 3 intercoolers done and ready to ship and 60 more end tanks getting polished. I will be adding the intercooler to myevostore.com today and i'll reply with the link.
Thanks everyone for your time!
Rob
Originally Posted by trinydex
there is a thread somewhere that advertises the scc temp tests done on the turboxs intercooler... can anyone cough up those numbers or help find that thread... i can't find it for the life of me.
Originally Posted by Zeus
OK, I'll say it... can the OE under tray be reinstalled UNCUT/UNMODIFIED with this intercooler? You know, SCCA legal, etc, etc...
Originally Posted by lil'evil_evo
Good numbers, but like stated above we would like to see tests done with other ic. The Greddy v-spl is my last choice for a fmic. You should keep your stock one over the v-spl. I would love to see test compared to Buschur's which is one of the best fmic. Thanks
Time for pictures!!
Here are the cores getting prepped for testing:
GReddy:


Nisei core:




Nisei vs. GReddy:




We have some other really nice pics we took with a professional SLR camera, including the shot of the ability to see light through the greddy core.
I forgot to add in the previous post, the intercooler is made from scratch to Nisei's strict and **** specifics. The end tanks are cast specifically for the Evo (you'll see how it's contoured to fit and has indents for the A/C hard lines) and the core itself is designed as well using mathematical figures and strict testing (we're on the 4th or 5th revision now). We will be publishing pressure drop tests in a couple weeks as well.
Rob
Here are the cores getting prepped for testing:
GReddy:


Nisei core:




Nisei vs. GReddy:




We have some other really nice pics we took with a professional SLR camera, including the shot of the ability to see light through the greddy core.
I forgot to add in the previous post, the intercooler is made from scratch to Nisei's strict and **** specifics. The end tanks are cast specifically for the Evo (you'll see how it's contoured to fit and has indents for the A/C hard lines) and the core itself is designed as well using mathematical figures and strict testing (we're on the 4th or 5th revision now). We will be publishing pressure drop tests in a couple weeks as well.
Rob
Last edited by myevostore.com; Mar 4, 2005 at 02:43 PM.








