I like to think we sell parts based on facts. I don't think we take anyone's money by lieing to them about possible results or what they are going to get for their money. (I realize you didn't accuse us of this either)

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com

 

Not concentrating on power gains ... assuming boost if fixed with a boost controller or something, how does (or doesn't) the FMIC upgrade affect cooling when road racing?
Like the thread starter, I'm not interested in drag racing.

 

Well, that's just it. Being an avid researcher of facts, I make financial decisions based upon facts. I have not made accusations (thanks for noticing), but rather I am looking for hard data and I'm not finding any other than what I've noted and quoted.

If I had a solid guarantee that any specific aftermarket IC would give me even 10whp at the 350whp level following an A/F tuning adjustment (if necessary), I'd probably buy it tomorrow.

 

TED i could care less what you think about my opinnion. Obviously you take other peoples opinnion on here that you read about, without knowing ALL of the facts. But hey to each their own, just stick with your sotck intercooler then .

 

 

That's perfectly fine with me.

FWIW, not one decision I've made of any significant financial value has been based solely upon opinion. I've found solid, supportive, and independent test results for every part/service I've purchased. In this case, what I've found does not support your opinion, so we'll just leave it at that unless/until you find a way to prove otherwise.

 

Mark,

I guess according to Mr Ted here we wasted our money on our intercoolers. Sure ok, like i said earlier you have the proof that the stock is more than enough so keep your stock one then .

 

Sorry, I'm not much into wasting my time with exhanges of petty insults.

Anyway, for the rest of those who've participated in this discussion. I've not posted a challenge here, only a request. I'm not interested in he-said, she-said, only test results that are of good quality and isolate the IC.

 

Ted , i just found another post from you on here going back and forth with a tech at AMS, so i take it you don't believe them either... hahahha

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted B
Some of things I read in these threads are just ridiculous.

You don't need a larger IC...unless you are going to a bigger turbo.



Dyno tested in house with a stock turbo. Horsepower went from 365 to 385! That is the AMS FMIC.

At 23 PSI the stock FMIC droped 3 psi from end tank to end tank. With the AMS FMIC it only droped .5 psi from end tank to end tank. That alone will gain hp.

 

Why would he have to trust him? Did the guy post a dyno chart before and after?
Let's look at it this way...
Did you ever try tilting your head upwards and spitting in the air?
If you are making and marketing your product, would you not say it's great?

 

Independent test with an AMS FMIC: = <5whp on a tuned 350whp EVO.

Some may believe the claim, I'll choose to believe the dyno sheet. Meanwhile, you've got nothing to offer but hot air (pardon the pun), so feel free to continue and I'll just ignore the noise.

 

I'd like people to compare things like intercoolers based on Laptime improvements and
intake air temperatures. That counts and not a *** dyno sheet.

 

I have been considering upgrading my intercooler as one of my next mods. My concern is not if it makes more power on the dyno, but whether or not it allows the car to make more power after 20 or 30 minutes on the track. I don't think anyone has done this, but I would be interested in seeing a car driven hard for 15 or 20 minutes, then strapped to a dyno. Then have the intercooler switched and do the same thing again. That would show the true benefits of the intercooler.

For those interested in drag racing, I don't think there is much benefit to having a larger intercooler. However, for those of us interested in road racing, the benefits may be cooler intake charge after 20 minutes of hard racing.

Just my 2 cents on the subject.

Paul

 

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Dead link.