Should i get a turbo back exhaust with a cat delete or high flow cat?
Originally Posted by BJai02
BTW, I am not sure about other states' law. But the fine will be $2000+ for having a cat-less car in California. That I can upgrade a big turbo for more power 

I'm not gonna get into the whole environmental debate. We all have our own opinions...especially the CA guys who can't get anything better than 91 octane...but if you're going to go catless invest in a cat-delete pipe that is designed to LOOK like it has a catalytic converter. For CA guys I believe this is one of the companies that is working on one...
http://www.mpjperformance.com/
Realistically though...if you're running a full 3" TB w/a high flow cat it should be pretty damn close to a full 3" TB w/cat-delete...at least I would think. I think some sort of customized mod-specific ECU reflash would be recommended in either instance though to maximize the performance gains.
catless = louder, smelly and a bit more performance
highflow = quieter, no smell and a bit less performance.
buschur tested his highflow vs. his cat delete and lost 8whp at the top end. to me i've been catless for over a year w/my wrx and it's gotten old
highflow = quieter, no smell and a bit less performance.
buschur tested his highflow vs. his cat delete and lost 8whp at the top end. to me i've been catless for over a year w/my wrx and it's gotten old
Originally Posted by bigjhoney
He probably means for emissions testing in the future.
If your worried about small increases in air pollutants then stick with the stock parts....
If its illegal to run your car catless in your area then you could hollow out a high flow cat making it just like a straight pipe...That way it looks like a cat but performes like a cat-delete....
If its illegal to run your car catless in your area then you could hollow out a high flow cat making it just like a straight pipe...That way it looks like a cat but performes like a cat-delete....
Yeah, keeping the stock cat with a catdel is what I did too, my ugly stock cat is sitting in a box...kinda funny you can hold the stock cat up to the sun and you can't see ANY light through it...restrictive? I think so
Originally Posted by Doc
If your worried about small increases in air pollutants then stick with the stock parts....
If its illegal to run your car catless in your area then you could hollow out a high flow cat making it just like a straight pipe...That way it looks like a cat but performes like a cat-delete....
If its illegal to run your car catless in your area then you could hollow out a high flow cat making it just like a straight pipe...That way it looks like a cat but performes like a cat-delete....
I choose to modifed my vheicles, a well tune vehicle can look like stock in terms of the emmsion test measurements (as long as it has a cat and reasonable cams). A modified vehicle doesn't have to be a gross polluter, I choose to keep it that way and not worry about $2500 fines and smog checks every year. Atleast I can feel like I am socially aware of the enviorment.
You can do as you please, the people that really get me, it the idiot gutting the cat in 120hp POS that gains 3 hp....
Originally Posted by Evo348
The reason i want to know is because i heard you can damage the turbo due to misfire if you have a cat delete. And for some reason is better to have a high flow cat, yet you get less power. I really dont care about legal crap, but i wanna know if this is true because i dont want to damage the turbo in the long run. Also what brands do you recommend? i want a deep rumble, but not that loud so i would get the cops attention. Thanks 


