We are not talking about injectors and yes it does have to do with timing at idle concerning the intake.

 

Boy oh boy!! Have you ever had an SAFC? If you did then would notice how in fact the settings do affect the idle. If you move the % up and down at 1000rpm's you WILL notice a huge difference in the idle. With cams we used to richen up the mixture at idle up to about 12-15% and it made the idle 100% better. So please dont state something unless you have personally had experience with it, not that someone told you so or you read about it. The SAFC did a commendable job with the Evos, of course now with flashes and better piggybacks its almost considered ancient tech, but it does a decent job.

 

I have an SAFC and it doesn't do anything at idle. It does a lot at Hi settings. I guess that would be personal experience. Don't make assumptions, they aren't productive. I guess you would realize that if you had clicked the link and read through it instead of thinking you know everything. Per my experience, TurboTrix's experience, and many other's experience, the SAFC does not make a difference in closed loop operation including idle. If you want to believe it does, you are free to do so. Take care.

 

This has already been discussed in SAFC tuning forum. I agree with evo texas. There won't be a difference or that significant difference because in closed loop it will relearn and change it automatically.

 

I'm using a greddy recirc too. The EIDs buffers the airflow readings so it doesn't stall. Even though it was meant for VTA BOV it should work for your intake.

 

Contradict yourself much? If the ECU learns so quick then you won't need any method of compensating on your own. If you tune the AFC correctly so you are running properly the ECU sees the car running properly and makes no changes.

Keith

 

got a glitch now, the car runs crapy every now and then with the safc2 installed, uninstall and it is fine, now i was under the impression that with as much mods that are on this evo i would have to have some type of converter/computer system to help lean and richen the fuel, is that true? because my evo runs much better with out one in it.

 

You need to learn the difference between open loop and closed loop before you make that comment.

 

I know the difference.... what is your point? Closed loop operations such as idle the ECU learns and compensates for variations, but it can only compensate a certain amount. The SAFC also can be used the compensate for mods at idle and as long as you are trying to work WITH the stock ECU rather than against it (in other words, if you know WTF you are doing) it works great.

Keith

 

Ok then I guess you're right.....