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This is getting a little OT, but I don't think the outsourcing of manufacturing can stopped.
Remember 'buy american' of the 1980's? It did nothing to stop Japan's emergence as a manufacturing powerhouse. With Japan's growth and influence in the US market, they would beging building factorys and plants in the United States, creating jobs.
But that's Japan.
China is a much different story. A good amount of Japanese manufacturers adhere to quality standards like ISO, but China laughs at those in favor of producing quantity instead of quality. They don't play fair. (The fact that in February, when sanctions were lifted from china textile imports, US ports saw over a 1100% increase in textiles from them)
I'll buy Japanese, but I wont buy Chinese. A lot of Japanese parts manufacturers make their crap in China, but won't disclose it...so i'm very picky with the parts I put on my car.
China probably can't be stopped, as long as people keep looking for 'lowest price' with the current 'ebay mentality' that US consumers have.
Remember 'buy american' of the 1980's? It did nothing to stop Japan's emergence as a manufacturing powerhouse. With Japan's growth and influence in the US market, they would beging building factorys and plants in the United States, creating jobs.
But that's Japan.
China is a much different story. A good amount of Japanese manufacturers adhere to quality standards like ISO, but China laughs at those in favor of producing quantity instead of quality. They don't play fair. (The fact that in February, when sanctions were lifted from china textile imports, US ports saw over a 1100% increase in textiles from them)
I'll buy Japanese, but I wont buy Chinese. A lot of Japanese parts manufacturers make their crap in China, but won't disclose it...so i'm very picky with the parts I put on my car.
China probably can't be stopped, as long as people keep looking for 'lowest price' with the current 'ebay mentality' that US consumers have.
Yeah how much power loss are we talking about here? Im curious to know since my car had put down good numbers on the dyno with the HKS Hi-power. And is there a dyno pull between the two to show the loss in power???
Last edited by EVIL_EVO_VIII; Mar 28, 2005 at 05:48 PM.
Originally Posted by Kbp2025
Sorry this question might be stupid, but that's how you learn...What exactly does neck down mean, and does the RS-R have it?(please say no, I already have it on my evo)
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Originally Posted by EVIL_EVO_VIII
Yeah how much power loss are we talking about here? Im curious to know since my car had put down good numbers on the dyno with the HKS Hi-power. And is there a dyno pull between the two to show the loss in power???
Last edited by DynoFlash; Mar 28, 2005 at 05:54 PM.
Al,
I think you have made the right choice in your exhaust, I cannot believe you even posted a picture of that POS neck down, when you have the ultimate secret weapon on your car. Is it that you are trying to prevent everyone from getting the free flow you get from the BR exhaust?
Dave did a test years ago on the dyno of a talon with a resonator which was 2.5 inches and the car would make no more than 280hp if I remember correctly. Once he removed the restriction I believe said car put out 400+hp This was back in the 20g days.
Ask Dave, it's a blast from the past, there is a reason his exhaust is the way it is.
Sean
I think you have made the right choice in your exhaust, I cannot believe you even posted a picture of that POS neck down, when you have the ultimate secret weapon on your car. Is it that you are trying to prevent everyone from getting the free flow you get from the BR exhaust?
Dave did a test years ago on the dyno of a talon with a resonator which was 2.5 inches and the car would make no more than 280hp if I remember correctly. Once he removed the restriction I believe said car put out 400+hp This was back in the 20g days.
Ask Dave, it's a blast from the past, there is a reason his exhaust is the way it is.
Sean
Originally Posted by davidbuschur
The neck down sucks, that's for sure. Typical catback exhaust. Weighs 12 pounds and costs how much Al? Ours is 16 pounds, no reducer in it and is only $450. Hell our exhaust has already made 667 whp on your car, isn't that good enough
David Buschur
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Don't get upset Al, this is from one fat *** to another
Heck, I loose 4 lbs when I take a good dump 
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From: driving the 10 second beast in ohio or running lightmods.net
matt can weld titanium at slickmotorsports without a problem ....infact we may make my intercooler piping out of it for fun even though the latest aluminum setup was really light enough
Originally Posted by DynoFlash
I have not tested it yet. On a particular car, you may or may not notice the difference. However - as a group you can see the average is 5 - 8 whp less with the necked down exhuast vs. a full 3" exhuast. The freer flowing and less bends and restrictive the more power you can make. If you have a necked down exhuast (meaning it necks down from a full 3" exhuast tube to a 2.4 " at the rear cat ) that creates turbulence and back pressure in the system. A staight exhuast is the highest flow. These marketing companies are more interested in the shape of the exhuast tip than in the dyno numbers.
So I know you have an effective neck down by using the stock cat, but what about the Buschur SCCA catback? If used with a 3" cat will there be a neckdown in the flange on the buschur piece?