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From: Viewing the Mountains
Originally Posted by WHTEVO
when they say neck down they mean that at the flange it is say 2.5" then it goes to 3". so basically if your running a 3" downpipe and test pipe then you run a catback that reduces to 2.5 them goes back to 3 it just restricts the flow.
don't know which rs-r you have but i have the ex mag gt2 and it does not neck down. full 3" and one bend.
that magnaflow is way overpriced. i think they're ti one is like 1200 bucks and to have it neck down like that is a waste.
don't know which rs-r you have but i have the ex mag gt2 and it does not neck down. full 3" and one bend.
that magnaflow is way overpriced. i think they're ti one is like 1200 bucks and to have it neck down like that is a waste.
See at the flange it does neck down. Also the slip fit connection is tapered.
Originally Posted by ThEHiTMaN
I have an RSR dp that necked down to connect to a stock cat back. I am so crazy I had the muffler shop cut that 2" section of pipe off and weld on 2" of 3" pipe. Problem solved! 
Originally Posted by DynoFlash
I just heard of this new cool 12 lbs ti exhuast by Magnaflow
Only to look on to their web site and discover it has the same lame neck down to the stock cat size pipe right where it meets the cat.
I have never seen ANY exhuast make decent power that necks down like that - neck down mufflers suck. They are very restrictive - kind of like a cork.
I was excited but now I am bummed out - I guess I am just a car crazy guy
Only to look on to their web site and discover it has the same lame neck down to the stock cat size pipe right where it meets the cat.
I have never seen ANY exhuast make decent power that necks down like that - neck down mufflers suck. They are very restrictive - kind of like a cork.
I was excited but now I am bummed out - I guess I am just a car crazy guy
Basically nothing... I got it done at miami muffler. They had 2" piece of 3" pipe laying around and then just charged me for a 3" falange. I do not recall how much it was but i wouldn't say anything over $20 lol.
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From: 2003 Evo VIII - Silver
Originally Posted by 4-BNGR
Cut is off at the neck down. Remove the flange on the back end of the cat. Get a slip fitting. Problem solved...
neck down = weak sauce. if it was a n/a car, i would understand it, but most manufacturers want something that could comply to federal regulation, which requires all cars to have a catalytic converter.
you could be fined upto $100,000 for even touching an exhaust without cat.
anyway, on the buy american things, how could you buy american things when Japan owns half of US?
you could be fined upto $100,000 for even touching an exhaust without cat.
anyway, on the buy american things, how could you buy american things when Japan owns half of US?
Originally Posted by purecoda
just an FYI, but whoever told you all that about titanium knows nothing about it. one thing that metal is most definitely not is brittle. in fact think total opposite of that. it has amazing fatigue resistance.
EDIT: i left my statement above the same, but just double checked my sources. i don't know why i blanked on this, but titanium does indeed form "brittle compounds" when being welded to disimilar metals. so as long as that thing's fully ti, all the pros of ti should be there (including great flexibility). http://www.azom.com/Details.asp?ArticleID=1245 my source
on another note does anyone else not really like the blue tip? i mean i know its a great way to tell everyone that at least the tip is titanium, but i think bare ti is much cleaner and sexier.
EDIT: i left my statement above the same, but just double checked my sources. i don't know why i blanked on this, but titanium does indeed form "brittle compounds" when being welded to disimilar metals. so as long as that thing's fully ti, all the pros of ti should be there (including great flexibility). http://www.azom.com/Details.asp?ArticleID=1245 my source
on another note does anyone else not really like the blue tip? i mean i know its a great way to tell everyone that at least the tip is titanium, but i think bare ti is much cleaner and sexier.
If you really want the TI piece, just cut the end off and weld on a new piece. Be carefeful cutting though. Cutting Ti is like cutting heat treated steel. Youl break blades for sure if you dont know what your doing.
Originally Posted by DynoFlash
I am sorry but I am not into paying TWO TIMES the price or $895 for a cat back exhuast to have to cut it up to install properly when for 1/2 the price I can get an exhuast done right the first time. Simple economics
Originally Posted by dolemite45
This is getting a little OT, but I don't think the outsourcing of manufacturing can stopped.
Remember 'buy american' of the 1980's? It did nothing to stop Japan's emergence as a manufacturing powerhouse. With Japan's growth and influence in the US market, they would beging building factorys and plants in the United States, creating jobs.
But that's Japan.
China is a much different story. A good amount of Japanese manufacturers adhere to quality standards like ISO, but China laughs at those in favor of producing quantity instead of quality. They don't play fair. (The fact that in February, when sanctions were lifted from china textile imports, US ports saw over a 1100% increase in textiles from them)
I'll buy Japanese, but I wont buy Chinese. A lot of Japanese parts manufacturers make their crap in China, but won't disclose it...so i'm very picky with the parts I put on my car.
China probably can't be stopped, as long as people keep looking for 'lowest price' with the current 'ebay mentality' that US consumers have.
Remember 'buy american' of the 1980's? It did nothing to stop Japan's emergence as a manufacturing powerhouse. With Japan's growth and influence in the US market, they would beging building factorys and plants in the United States, creating jobs.
But that's Japan.
China is a much different story. A good amount of Japanese manufacturers adhere to quality standards like ISO, but China laughs at those in favor of producing quantity instead of quality. They don't play fair. (The fact that in February, when sanctions were lifted from china textile imports, US ports saw over a 1100% increase in textiles from them)
I'll buy Japanese, but I wont buy Chinese. A lot of Japanese parts manufacturers make their crap in China, but won't disclose it...so i'm very picky with the parts I put on my car.
China probably can't be stopped, as long as people keep looking for 'lowest price' with the current 'ebay mentality' that US consumers have.
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Very good points NS. Automobile and other highly technical manufacturing should be a large boon for the future of US manufacturing, as aerospace is still fairly strong.
As far as aftermarket automobile parts go...the situation still looks grim IMHO. From what I've heard, several large Japanese manufacturers have gone under, and a lot of the large US and German aftermarket parts manufacturers have taken a huge hit in sales from the overflow of ultra cheap performance goods (or should I say bads?) from China.
There aren't enough restrictions on imports of this kind (SEMA are you listening?), and not enough awareness overall on what quality aftermarket parts should be to stop it. :/
purecoda:
I really dont think a lot of the full Ti systems being offered for our cars are using high grade Ti, or the price would be much higher for these systems. Because a majority of the low cost Ti systems are made in China, I am almost positive they are using lower grades. China still has to buy Ti from the US since they don't have much of that resource. For that price, the chances that it's of good quality are very very slim.
I've heard first hand that many people's full Ti JIC exhausts broke at the welds. It's all hearsay, but the Magnaflow and the JIC are strikingly similar.
For what it's worth, I don't trust it.
As far as aftermarket automobile parts go...the situation still looks grim IMHO. From what I've heard, several large Japanese manufacturers have gone under, and a lot of the large US and German aftermarket parts manufacturers have taken a huge hit in sales from the overflow of ultra cheap performance goods (or should I say bads?) from China.
There aren't enough restrictions on imports of this kind (SEMA are you listening?), and not enough awareness overall on what quality aftermarket parts should be to stop it. :/
purecoda:
I really dont think a lot of the full Ti systems being offered for our cars are using high grade Ti, or the price would be much higher for these systems. Because a majority of the low cost Ti systems are made in China, I am almost positive they are using lower grades. China still has to buy Ti from the US since they don't have much of that resource. For that price, the chances that it's of good quality are very very slim.
I've heard first hand that many people's full Ti JIC exhausts broke at the welds. It's all hearsay, but the Magnaflow and the JIC are strikingly similar.
For what it's worth, I don't trust it.