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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 08:26 PM
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i hate big turbos unless you have a standalone and built motor, i roll on anything on the highway but the lagg and power delivery just isnt my cup of tea, especially since i got my gsx-r 600, i love redlining at 15,500 rpms, 90mph in 2nd gear ;-O
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 08:29 PM
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Yeah I have seen the hp @ 50 anywhere from 11.5 to 13.0
On this car the resistant Hp figure is 11.9
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 08:35 PM
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Thanks for the info. I will pass this info along to the guys at aerocomp.



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On this car the resistant Hp figure is 11.9
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by strongbear0
Thanks for the info. I will pass this info along to the guys at aerocomp.
Anytime
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 08:44 PM
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Well in the grand scheme of things the evo is just like a chrysler me412 but I sure as hell would take the me412 without thinking twice about it.
I think your just arguing for the sake of arguing, seriously man.

. I would like to know how long the stocker lasts at 380whp my guess would be not that long
Now that is just an assumption, but atleast we are moving towards the right direction here as it can happen but people choose not too cuz using a larger turbo is SO much easier Hell I want your turbo although I may want something SLIGHTLY smaller.

go ahead and think whatever you want
I am , just trying to figure out why you are getting so upset? I think your numbers are good?

And I bet you think Kurt Brown hit that 11.12 on pump gas right?
Oh now your being silly But people running your turbo on race gas still cant hit that time, kinda BLURS the lines a little huh?



but it falls on it's face above 5k and mine does not
That's funny cuz my stock turbo holds 21PSI till 8000 RPMS and the funny thing is my WHP keeps climbing on Pump gas. IT DOES fall off drastically at 8200 though.


tuner and said the torque was way to low when
Well I am SORRY but I THINK your torque is low, horse power is good, torque is low. I am SORRY that this upsets you, seems a lot of people are saying it too, maybe you shouldn't have posted this? IDK man, just calm down, please


I hope trying to belittle my accomplishments makes you feel better about yourself.
Your accomplishments? Oh you mean the money you spent for other people to tune your car. Seriously I never attacked your car or turbo, just saying that your torque curve was low IMHO and you pooped all over me and many other members. It's long and flat, yes, but low. That is what I think.
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 08:45 PM
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It really makes all the effort worth it when people actually offer help and constructive criticism, instead of the usual negative stuff.



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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by strongbear0
It really makes all the effort worth it when people actually offer help and constructive criticism, instead of the usual negative stuff.
Man the internet is full of negativity. They hide behind a computer screen and talk BS
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by umiami80
I think your just arguing for the sake of arguing, seriously man.



Now that is just an assumption, but atleast we are moving towards the right direction here as it can happen but people choose not too cuz using a larger turbo is SO much easier Hell I want your turbo although I may want something SLIGHTLY smaller.



I am , just trying to figure out why you are getting so upset? I think your numbers are good?

Oh now your being silly But people running your turbo on race gas still cant hit that time, kinda BLURS the lines a little huh?





That's funny cuz my stock turbo holds 21PSI till 8000 RPMS and the funny thing is my WHP keeps climbing on Pump gas. IT DOES fall off drastically at 8200 though.




Well I am SORRY but I THINK your torque is low, horse power is good, torque is low. I am SORRY that this upsets you, seems a lot of people are saying it too, maybe you shouldn't have posted this? IDK man, just calm down, please




Your accomplishments? Oh you mean the money you spent for other people to tune your car. Seriously I never attacked your car or turbo, just saying that your torque curve was low IMHO and you pooped all over me and many other members. It's long and flat, yes, but low. That is what I think.
You are a total POS. I turned the wrenches. I pulled the tranny and put the clutch in by myself. I pulled all the parts and installed the turbo. I installed the cams. No one has ever put a wrench to this car except for me. I had the aem up and running good but I am not a tuner. Sorry I am not perfect like you. But yes I did all the work and my knuckles were bleeding not the tuners. You should really just stay out of my thread if you don't have anything nice to say. I will hit a low 11 on my setup and the torque is where it is supposed to be. You must have missed my post with all the links to other dyno sheets showing the same kind of results on many other big turbo cars. Go look through the registry and you will see that even on race gas the big turo cars usually make 100ft/lbs less torque than horsepower. Even the big boys like ams, dynoflash and tt. Now please leave if you have nothing usefull to contribute.

PS. I see your name, do you live in Florida?
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 08:57 PM
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You are a total POS


Sorry I am not perfect like you
No one is man, it's a tough standard to go by but hey I gotta be me.

You should really just stay out of my thread if you don't have anything nice to say
You are missing the point, I said nice kit, nice ***** power numbers, nice car, VERY VERY nice WHP curve, I just didn't like one thing, so I should kiss your butt and not state what I think? If I saw like 350-360 or so, ok Many upgraded turbo's hit this, bigger and smaller then yours. That is all I am saying.


312FP's is low in my opinion and further more I....wait, WAIT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD for me to get my flame suit on, ......ok

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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by umiami80




No one is man, it's a tough standard to go by but hey I gotta be me.



You are missing the point, I said nice kit, nice ***** power numbers, nice car, VERY VERY nice WHP curve, I just didn't like one thing, so I should kiss your butt and not state what I think? If I saw like 350-360 or so, ok Many upgraded turbo's hit this, bigger and smaller then yours. That is all I am saying.


312FP's is low in my opinion and further more I....wait, WAIT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD for me to get my flame suit on, ......ok
Show me one place you said nice kit. From moment one you have been talking $hit. I'm over it. Mods PLEASE DELETE THIS THREAD........PLEASE DELETE THIS THREAD.......

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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 09:44 PM
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Just went for a ride in his car man is it a beast. I was very impressed makes my car feel so slow. Car didnt seem laggy at all either.
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 10:54 PM
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Dang, all the hatred, Guys, i have a RNR gt-35r kit. I use the UTEC. At low rpm's, my car is horrible. Hunting AFR's, Low vacuum idleing issues. I can be cruising at 75 mph and see 12.5 afr's. The 19 afr's. But when i nail it, anything above 5000 rpm and there aint a car with in 100 miles that can keep up. But its just not fun. If the low end was as steady as the top end, i would be in heaven. Honest opinion, will getting rid of the MAF and getting speed density with the aem help?? or get rid of the turbo for a 3071...Thanks....
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by rraulston
Dang, all the hatred, Guys, i have a RNR gt-35r kit. I use the UTEC. At low rpm's, my car is horrible. Hunting AFR's, Low vacuum idleing issues. I can be cruising at 75 mph and see 12.5 afr's. The 19 afr's. But when i nail it, anything above 5000 rpm and there aint a car with in 100 miles that can keep up. But its just not fun. If the low end was as steady as the top end, i would be in heaven. Honest opinion, will getting rid of the MAF and getting speed density with the aem help?? or get rid of the turbo for a 3071...Thanks....
I think that the UTEC is just being exhausted but alteast you have given it an equal shot. I hear alot of complains with people running the stock MAF and injectors that are bigger than 7-800cc. My honest opinion is yes going to a MAP design will help but your biggest problem is probably just the the UTEC being able to read the MAF and hold the idle correctly so you could probably run the AEM at first with the MAF sensor on until you can learn the system alittle bit. The AEM is very good and running big injectors and holding a stead idle regardless of how you are measuring the air. Going straight to a MAP setup is once again hard to get a handle on with daily driveability becuase it doesn't acutally measure the amount of air, it only is taking a guess in calculation so it can seem to react alittle bit behind at low rpm until you get in this mindset. Once it is dialed in though you won't have any of these issues and you will once again have a dependably daily driver but it takes time to be sure to account for each and every situation.

As in power keep in mind you don't gain 50whp just from slapping in the AEM so don't expect to gain a bunch even though you might but it won't show up right away. As in safety you can truly be safer becuase you can datalog at 250 samples per second and truly read the sensors on every stroke the engine takes so detonation can be found and tuned out fast. It is truly a great system if you are willing to commit yourself to learn it from top to bottom unless you have someone you can truly trust to tune it. My advice would be purchase a used one if you can fine one this way if you don't like it you can get most of not all of your money back out of it.

Hope it helps.

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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by rraulston
Dang, all the hatred, Guys, i have a RNR gt-35r kit. I use the UTEC. At low rpm's, my car is horrible. Hunting AFR's, Low vacuum idleing issues. I can be cruising at 75 mph and see 12.5 afr's. The 19 afr's. But when i nail it, anything above 5000 rpm and there aint a car with in 100 miles that can keep up. But its just not fun. If the low end was as steady as the top end, i would be in heaven. Honest opinion, will getting rid of the MAF and getting speed density with the aem help?? or get rid of the turbo for a 3071...Thanks....
The turbo is way too big. It will get you some impressive numbers up top but it wont see max boost until over 5000.
The only way you are going to see an improvement with that turbo will be with NOS. I doubt that you are willing to hole shot the car at every traffic light though!!
Yeah its a little exagerated.
A GT30 is absolutely perfect for this car.
The AEM on the other hand can and will give you perfect drivability once tuned correctly on a load bearing dyno. NOT tuning to WOT and interpolating the rest of the map. Then some time street tuning for closed loop and cold start.
For example we had an EVO come in last week for just AEM. Bone stock. Took about two hours to tune completely.
Left it again the following overnight for some cold cranking adjustments and she's done.
In regard to map based systems. It will depend specifically on the resolution and quality of the sensor that you incorporate. There are some misconceptions about low speed and low throttle problems with MAP.
IN my opinion MAF is best. BUT if the vehicle is tuned right by a professional then you will notice some great gains in the upper rpms with a Map based system.
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 05:42 AM
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Thanks. As soon as I get some money together I am going to get the head work done and do the valve springs and retainers and I hope to be able to hit 450 on pump then I will throw in some race fuel and crank up the boost a little bit.
Is this the dash 13 cartridge. because if it is I was told that turbo is good for 600hp. That should be about 500 and change at the wheels. Also what back housing are you using.
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